# Bloc 83 - One Glenwood, Two Hillsborough, and Phase 3

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295>\
**Category:** New Construction\
**Created:** [June 19, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295 "2018-06-19T17:21:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Will](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/will/32/218_2.png) [@Will](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Will)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/1 "2018-06-19T17:21:02Z")

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Site plans filed for two hillsborough St.

[https://www.raleighnc.gov/content/PlanDev/Documents/DevServ/DevPlans/Reviews/2018/SiteReview/SR-059-18.pdf](https://www.raleighnc.gov/content/PlanDev/Documents/DevServ/DevPlans/Reviews/2018/SiteReview/SR-059-18.pdf)

10 stories with a total height of 150’.

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**Author:** ![Alan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@Alan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Alan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/2 "2018-06-19T17:28:55Z")

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You beat me to it. I was just about to post this.

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**Author:** ![Olga](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/olga/32/248_2.png) [@Olga](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Olga)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/3 "2018-06-19T17:50:50Z")

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I would think the “offset” Boylan Ave. / Hillsborough St intersection was a prime candidate for a traffic circle.

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/4 "2018-06-19T18:10:46Z")

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Man, I wonder what’s happening to Dram and Draught… Happy to see something done with the rest of that space. Also excited at the several other parcels right there that are going to be developed soon too. That whole area is really going to connect the downtown sections.

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**Author:** ![Jenna](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jenna/32/36_2.png) [@Jenna](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jenna)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/5 "2018-06-19T18:29:24Z")

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Agreed! As is, the intersection invites confusion.

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**Author:** ![Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/francisco/32/10233_2.png) [@Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Francisco)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/6 "2018-06-19T18:56:57Z")

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It’s sad is see Dram and Draught go but more business will come and go.

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**Author:** ![Mark](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Mark](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Mark)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/7 "2018-06-19T19:02:51Z")

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Is that dangling retail space on the SE corner of the site, proposed to be a shipping container? Sort of looks like it. The downtown container park in Vegas is a cool place and has me sort of turned on to the idea.

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**Author:** ![Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/francisco/32/10233_2.png) [@Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Francisco)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/8 "2018-06-19T19:09:02Z")

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Eh the building design is a bit dull but what can you do, this is Raleigh after all.

 ![00%20PM](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/1X/035d69f13867d73d82344d3834a42fad8a58fa17.png) ![09%20PM](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/1X/2282b39b2afc2a2ebc67efe08888046b95c95ff6.png)

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**Author:** ![niko](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@niko](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/niko)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/9 "2018-06-19T19:11:36Z")

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At least one developer is not waiting on the news and prepares for the future.  
What is the approx. timeline for Two Hillsborough?

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**Author:** ![JosABanks](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/josabanks/32/7754_2.png) [@JosABanks](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/JosABanks)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/10 "2018-06-19T19:15:54Z")

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Guessing they won’t break ground until One Glenwood is complete. It’s already kind of a pain walking around there due to the construction. That could be the end of the year with the way they are throwing One Glenwood up.

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**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/11 "2018-06-19T19:21:09Z")

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There has been serious consideration to the curb and pedestrian experience with these plans.  
Great job in my opinion, there appears to be a concourse between the main building and the seperate two smaller retail spaces. Almost providing an extension for pedestrians from Glenwood South. The plans do show a shipping style container used for smaller retail, which will be flooded with people from both office buildings during lunch.

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**Author:** ![Stew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Stew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Stew)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/12 "2018-06-19T19:24:13Z")

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One of the many reason I appreciate this blog is the frequent posting of interesting architecture and projects in other cities. @Mark, I wasn’t aware of Container Park in Vegas. What a cool place! Thanks so much for mentioning it.

I also noticed what appears to be a container design in the Hillsborough 2 plans. Could turn into something really interesting albeit on a much smaller scale than Container Park.

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**Author:** ![GregD](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@GregD](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GregD)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/13 "2018-06-19T19:53:08Z")

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If you are talking about what looks to be a container in between the two buildings, that is a stormwater mechanism that goes underground.

As far the building’s design, I don’t expect infill (or anything less than 12-15 stories) to be that exciting design wise just yet. Gensler who is the architect has been know to crank out very exciting designs so its not for lack of trying.

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**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/14 "2018-06-19T19:59:29Z")

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@GregD Upper right corner of the plans show “container” 949 square feet.  
It even lists it as the 2nd of 3 buildings on the property.

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**Author:** ![Stew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Stew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Stew)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/15 "2018-06-19T20:15:52Z")

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Adding onto @Drew’s comment an elevation at bottom of plan also looks a lot like a container design.

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**Author:** ![orulz](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/orulz/32/3808_2.png) [@orulz](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/orulz)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/16 "2018-06-19T21:25:51Z")

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I think the proper treatment would be to just realign the intersection whenever Allen’s Automotive on the SW corner of the intersection is redeveloped. Or else just maybe leave it like it is. Roundabouts take up a lot of space and are less ped friendly than standard crosswalks.

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**Author:** ![dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/dtraleigh/32/32735_2.png) [@dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/dtraleigh)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/17 "2018-06-21T11:01:29Z")

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Got the project up on the blog.

[https://dtraleigh.com/2018/06/plans-submitted-for-ten-story-building-on-600-block-of-hillsborough-street/](https://dtraleigh.com/2018/06/plans-submitted-for-ten-story-building-on-600-block-of-hillsborough-street/)

I actually think it looks pretty good. Great location and the courtyard between this and One Glenwood could be a good public space, maybe an active bookend for Glenwood South.

I do need to spend more time at Dram and Draught not only because I really like that bar but because the Esso Station has a lot of Raleigh character. It is something that’s uniquely Raleigh so losing it will be sad but worth it. We’re getting something more valuable rather than losing it over a short apartment building.

 ![](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/1X/cb13d8a716a4338448e0597dcf65214823836308.jpg)

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**Author:** ![elderlywoman](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@elderlywoman](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/elderlywoman)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/18 "2018-06-21T13:18:19Z")

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Who cares about the business. Its the building that matters.

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**Author:** ![Raleighwood](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Raleighwood](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Raleighwood)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:38pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/20 "2018-06-21T13:38:52Z")

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Really, this site can accept clean criticism about OUR CITY.

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**Author:** ![RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/robertsanderlin/32/59_2.png) [@RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/RobertSanderlin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/bloc-83-one-glenwood-two-hillsborough-and-phase-3/295/21 "2018-06-21T13:45:34Z")

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Two 10 story buildings in these prime spots in downtown are wasteful…IMHO  
And yes, I know, if I want to build something tall then I should buy and build something tall…I just hate the way the Great Recession all but destroyed our original designs for this area including 400H…

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