Cycling on Greenways in the Raleigh

Ok - that makes more sense. - I was thinking for ridding up or down, it would get a bit close to the railing.

Though those steps do look hella fun to ride down on a Mt. Bike.

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The latest I’m hearing from the Greenway Committee is that everything should be completed by the end of summer. Not exactly sure what that means, but hopefully by August/September.

Members of the Greenway Committee are planning a large grand opening event for this greenway connection that will likely take place in September/October. Stay tuned for more info as we get closer to the end of summer.

For those who may not be aware, once this connection is opened we’ll be able to ride on greenways between Umstead and Anderson Point Park and points beyond.

Greenway Committee meetings are open to the public. The committee meets the second Monday of each month in the Raleigh Municipal Building Rm 303, located at 222 W. Hargett Street at 4 p.m.

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I get it, the duration of closures sucks. And the greenway alerts page often does not seem to reflect reality. I’ve brought this up with Greenway Committee and other members have said the same. City Staff are now sharing a spreadsheet with the committee with all current and planned closures and we’re reviewing it at each meeting.

Detours on greenways are challenging because of where greenways are - along stream corridors and/or utility corridors. Essentially they piggyback on land that is already being used for something else - either by mother nature or public utilities. I know that’s an excuse, but it’s also reality.

You’re right about accommodations being made for car traffic but not for pedestrians/cyclists. We don’t have resilient, flexible active transportation networks that can adapt to flooding or construction work. But we do have zillions of roads that allow for cars to be rerouted. I’ve included resilience and adaptability as values that should be upheld in the values statement that will serve as a “preamble” to the city’s forthcoming Active Transportation Plan.

The lack of communication about closures is baffling. Many times greenway closures open ahead of schedule, but no announcement is made. I’ve told city staff they need to celebrate their triumphs, i.e., share good news when it comes along. I think they get it now that people are paying attention.

Here’s an upcoming closure we need to keep an eye on, it’s not near downtown, but . . . the Neuse River trail is to be closed between Auburn Knightdale Rd to Battle Ridge Rd from Fall 2024 to 2028 (not a typo). The reason is extension of I-540. NC DOT says they are going to provide a parallel trail in the vicinity of the closure. We need to make sure that actually happens - and not in the final year of construction.

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The next CAMPO meeting agenda includes an interlocal agreement for final design & NEPA documentation funding for the Triangle Bikeway project. Glad to see this moving forward.

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This is one of the things I am most excited about. It would actually make my commute out to RTP feasible on a bike / e-bike, since we aren’t getting commuter rail, this is my next best option to ditch the car for my commute.

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Thanks for your feedback. I understand that Greenways are often built in sewer right of ways, and sometimes big long projects are needed to repair sections. I guess my gripe is the lack of marked detours and communication.

I clicked your greenways alerts link and signed up for the text alerts. There are detour maps available there, but this information should be posted on the trail as well. Riding NRT at 401, there is zero indication that a detour is even available, or for how long the project is scheduled for. There are zero detour sings posted, either on the trail or on the roads the detour takes. I have ridden that section many times recently, and I had no idea there was even a detour designate for this section. I usually just cut around the fencing (not totally safe either with the construction equipment, but a hell of a lot safer then taking Perry Creek and 401.)

I would also like to see detours safe enough that you would feel comfortable taking young kids or your dog on it. This detour is not. Both Perry Creek Rd and 401 are very heavy, high speed traffic, with narrow sidewalks. I would hesitate to take this detour on my own, much less with kids in tow.

In such cases I would like to see some kind of protection like Jersey Barriers put up (to make a physical barrier between the sidewalk and the road, and signal changes to make crossing 6 lane 401 safer.

For short term detours (weeks) this may not be feasible, but for a detour on the premier Greenway that is closed for about a year, it should be the bare minimum.

This would have been a much better ( and safer) alternative detour. And I think very feasible.

Regarding the upcoming detour for the Complete 540 nonsense, that one is going to hurt. I have looked at maps of the proposed routing, and this will plow through some of the most scenic portion of the NRT, where the trail veers away from the river and goes up through the meadows. Not looking forward to 540 destroying that. But I am glad there is a pan for a good detour. And we certainly need to ensure the detour is in place before NDCOT starts construction.

On another note, “Greenspace” app I have on my phone has not been updated with closures in years, and does not match the closure map on the website. Can you bring this to the appropriate persons attention please? Thanks. It would be nice if this app also shows the detour route.

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I think my takeaway is that the Greenway Committee needs to look at proposed greenway detours with greater scrutiny and bring a user’s perspective to the discussion. My sense from hearing staff discuss closures and detours is that they often don’t know the area and don’t have personal user experience on the impacted sections of greenway.

We can also push for better detour signage that includes wayfinding elements.

I think the Greenspace app was developed/maintained by a private company. If they’re not updating I don’t know that the City can do anything about that. But I will ask about it.

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Photos from today’s rainy bike commute. I ended up using the greenway for the vast majority of the commute since I figured the greenway would be clear. Gorman street did have a really big water area where water was splashing up onto the cycle track from passing cars. As I was passing by McDonalds near Crabtree, I saw the street lights flicker and then go out. Luckily the area under Blue Ridge Rd wasn’t flooded.


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It would be nice to see bike traffic signals at popular or high crash intersections.

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Just gonna leave this here.

Anyone listen in on the 15th Campo meeting? Interested on any updates on the triangle bikeway!

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