I mean let’s see what the city can get out of them sure. But it’s naive to think you can just require all those things and get them. If any developer needs to either (1) fully fund existing traffic issues on Atlantic or (2) commit to building a full service walkable district in order to get an increase in density, it’s realistically not going to happen and this will continue to be a decrepit warehouse.
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But you know what the city can do? It can build the infrastructure to improve walkability & bikeability so that developers can more easily realize the city’s vision.
I’m not naive.
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We also can’t have nice things until poverty has been eliminated.
There is also the warehouse at 2315 Atlantic ave currently being worked on.
The permit portal indicates “alteration of existing single story building with new demising partition to create (2) suites, one for existing tenant and one for new tenant, Raleigh Police Department”.
Source: BLDNR-018326-2026
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I was visiting Trig Modern the other day and they’re in the middle of relocating to another space within Dock 1053. It sounded like the owner (I’m assuming Beacon) is eager to fill Trig Modern’s old space. Rumor is a coffee shop.
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I wonder how much that would be affected by the S-Line project, since a grade separation for Whitaker Mill is planned. If it requires modifications to the intersection or a new alignment, then we may have to wait.
The value of making this area more walkable is self-evident, and it would be a blind developer not to see that. The emenities so many folks want are right there, Beacon would be fools not to not to connect with iron works, etc. The urban vibe is there, use it I say, and I expect Beacon sees that too.
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Raleigh Mag characteristically does a stenography article in which they confuse or conflate several items and then also drop new information and renderings of the Johnson Brothers Distributing warehouse at 2233 Capital Blvd, which backs up to Iron Works (now apparently branded Eastside):
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Yeah that perfectly sums up my feelings after reading the article this morning. The best part is the resultant misguided questions, complaints, and outrage in their Instagram comments.
Always happy for new information, though.
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Hope they include at least a pedestrian connection to Ironwork.
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I see two breezeways to Laurelbrook St in the rendering.
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I’m so confused by their entire “N Hills Innovation District” section… what the hell is Vesper and where is it going?
It’s crazy that the wasteland of a back street I used to take sometimes at Big Boss Run Club is now going to be surrounded by all of this cool new/revitalized stuff! 2012 Jeff wouldn’t believe it.
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It looks like City Council will be discussing a rezoning of 2233 Capital Blvd this week. Currently it’s zoned for 3-story mixed used industrial, and the rezoning would be 20-story mixed used commercial.
I’m not well-versed in zoning. I’m assuming they want to rezone to commercial is so certain types of businesses are permitted. The 20-story part seems irrelevant based on the renders shared above?
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It would seem to me that this is just the next step in the North HIllsification of the Iron Works District.
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But wayyy harder to turn into North Hills since it’s multiple owners/developers, unfortunately. That’s why we don’t have North Hills or Fenton like development downtown. It’s way easier to manage and afford commercial development when you can be your own “mayor” of property you own and keep assembling it. There’s not enough “blank slate” or affordable parking lots all together downtown to do what Kane and others have done in places we compare things like this to. I realize you’re not a fan of North Hills, by the way.
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Sorry to interrupt your AI rampage.
But why do you and others continue to tell the wrong narrative around downtown vs north hills? It feels like you’re out to damage downtown’s reputation. It makes no sense.
DTR has more active development than north hills.
DTR has more active development than DT Durham.
DTR has more active development than DT Cary/Fenton.
I don’t think I need to list all of the projects to prove this, but let me know if you need me to and I will. We know that frequent posters here were recently oblivious to a 20-story tower about to break ground in DTR, so maybe you’re just out of the loop too. DTR is the hotbed for development in the region, followed by NH, Cary, and Durham.
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I am clearly a downtown supporter over North Hills/Midtown Exchange, but I think that North Hills and Midtown Exchange are better than far flung strip mall and low rise multifamily development and districts like Brier Creek. I also think that North Hills is better than Fenton since it’s more integrated into the fabric of its surroundings than the largely isolated Fenton. I also think it’s better than Crabtree, Triangle Towne Center and SouthPoint.
That all said, I don’t think that North Hills represents an equivalent to downtown, and I don’t think that Iron Works will even come close to what North Hills is.
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