# Hillsborough Street Mixed Use Projects Near NC State

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463>\
**Category:** New Construction\
**Created:** [August 8, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463 "2018-08-08T16:30:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Deekay93](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Deekay93](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Deekay93)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/402 "2023-10-06T13:52:27Z")

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I believe it’s turning into a new restaurant

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**Author:** ![trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/trueurbanist/32/23903_2.png) [@trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/trueurbanist)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/403 "2023-10-06T13:53:22Z")

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In a perfect world this would be the outcome:

 ![IMG_4325](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/7/a/7ad3b41857dcbe30b1470419bb170155d98548da.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/404 "2023-10-06T13:58:31Z")

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> [@Hillsborough Street Mixed Use projects near NCSU](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-ncsu/463/347):
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> Sounds like the IHOP house on Hillsborough St. might stay after all, but under a new restaurant. Being inspected today for Mami’s offspring.

 ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/a/d/ad8c2bb023d9494101c42011d9817f57a55de250.jpeg)

@Drew posted about this awhile back. Glad to see it’s apparently moving forward. Much better use of this weird, semi-iconic building than tearing it down or letting it sit vacant and rundown.

_Edit: Now watch, after I said that, this construction fencing will be for its demolition instead…_

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/405 "2023-10-06T15:18:42Z")

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Mami offspring as in Alpaca? 🙏

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**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/406 "2023-10-12T16:03:54Z")

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Winner winner chicken dinner, literally. Yes, my wife’s company is doing the upfit. Not sure of the timeline yet.

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**Author:** ![paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/paytonc/32/8502_2.png) [@paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/paytonc)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/407 "2023-10-17T20:47:34Z")

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> [@Jake](#):
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> I’m not optimistic about ground floor retail. Would really be a huge missed opportunity if so, and I do believe the city should really start requiring ground floor activation in these blocks-long monolithic structures going forward.

The UDO does have “frontage” requirements that do that, particularly “shopfront”:

> **[Unified Development Ordinance, Redirect](https://user-2081353526.cld.bz/UnifiedDevelopmentOrdinance/95/)**
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> Unified Development Ordinance - Redirect

However, this particular stretch of Hillsborough is designated as “Green” frontage, probably because it was historically a stretch of mansions-turned-offices without much retail.

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/408 "2023-10-18T13:15:09Z")

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> [@paytonc](#):
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> However, this particular stretch of Hillsborough is designated as “Green” frontage, probably because it was historically a stretch of mansions-turned-offices without much retail.

This is so dumb. So now, in the 21st Century, when there is an opportunity to add to the pedestrian experience and extend the urban fabric of the city down this stretch, they don’t think to update the frontage requirements because it “historically” didn’t have retail? Like… what? Why? lmao 🤦‍♂️

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/409 "2023-10-18T20:27:45Z")

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Meanwhile, Octavia Rainey spoke at yesterday’s council meeting about her proud efforts back in the 90s to downzone her neighborhood from R20 to R10 and her opposition to TOD on New Bern because it’s “not downtown”.  
Resistance from the west…resistance from the east. Where is DT to go?

Also, before we worry about extending the Hillsborough retail corridor, perhaps we can focus on the nearby one that’s primed and ready for it if we had the political will to transform Glenwood South.

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**Author:** ![Speck](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Speck](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Speck)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/410 "2023-11-19T18:08:34Z")

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Do we think this building is going to actually start soon? I see they have the site cleared.

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**Author:** ![zoso](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/bcef8e/32.png) [@zoso](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/zoso)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/411 "2023-11-20T18:45:25Z")

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It was in review BLDNR-050502-2022 and required resubmit, but has not been resubmitted.

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**Author:** ![apbassett](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@apbassett](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/apbassett)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/412 "2023-11-20T19:49:50Z")

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I can also confirm that it is going to be an Alpaca

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**Author:** ![dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/dtraleigh/32/32735_2.png) [@dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/dtraleigh)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/413 "2023-11-22T18:28:21Z")

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6 posts were merged into an existing topic: [501 Hillsborough](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/501-hillsborough/2461/235)

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/414 "2023-11-25T20:46:25Z")

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Octavia Rainey is a NIMBY troll who makes everything about race, and hides it up for her anti-growth agenda. Gosh, I am tired of people like her, and why does Raleigh get cursed with these kinds of people living here. New Bern is a vital corridor for her beloved people to connect them with WakeMed, and departments of health and human services and other Wake county governments they rely on. Plus those people love Walmart and Wake County Election HQ is on the route too so voting can happen I saw a lot of those people when I was campaigning for Minu Lee.

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**Author:** ![You-a-ostrich](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@You-a-ostrich](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/You-a-ostrich)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/415 "2023-12-04T18:13:28Z")

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Cha House is permanently closing. I am NOT WELL. ☹

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/416 "2023-12-04T18:14:39Z")

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ahhhh phooey, they had good boba and some good snack items. That whole strip seems like a difficult place to keep a shop/restaurant open. The building looking like a giant brick wall probably doesn’t help.

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/417 "2023-12-04T19:29:23Z")

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I’ve never heard of this place. Is it one of those generic Asian fusion/tea with chunks places that keep opening and closing by NC State that @evan.j.bost likes so much, but knows I don’t?😉  
😆

Also, @dtraleigh we are gonna need an ostrich reaction if this person keeps posting.

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**Author:** ![elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/elevatoroperator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/418 "2023-12-04T20:13:07Z")

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Yes, except it’s much much better than the generic chain ones. It was local and actually quality tea, as opposed to the powdered mix stuff. They’ve got two other locations in the Triangle.

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**Author:** ![evan.j.bost](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/evan.j.bost/32/539_2.png) [@evan.j.bost](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/evan.j.bost)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/419 "2023-12-04T20:56:05Z")

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You must have me crossed-wired in the brain. Not a fan of tapioca balls either. Lol

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/420 "2023-12-04T21:06:42Z")

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LOL I guess you never said you liked them either…

> [@GucciLittlePig](#):
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> Hillsborough St seems to have almost nothing but fly-by-night, generic retail that comes and goes with high frequency. I get the demographic influences this, but I’m not losing sleep over this apartment building not having another tea with chunks shop or shitty fast causal Asian fusion restaurant or generic sandwich place.

> [@Hillsborough Street Mixed Use projects near NCSU](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-ncsu/463/389):
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> You really don’t like Asia lol joy

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**Author:** ![You-a-ostrich](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@You-a-ostrich](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/You-a-ostrich)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/hillsborough-street-mixed-use-projects-near-nc-state/463/421 "2023-12-04T22:01:00Z")

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Cha House had a great vibe. Music, plants, art, decor, seating, space, etc. I liked working remote from there. Most other coffee/tea shops over there either don’t have ample seating or the wifi is bad. It wasn’t even about the tea for me, although I did enjoy it.

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