# Historic City Market

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193>\
**Category:** The Pub\
**Created:** [May 30, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193 "2018-05-30T02:15:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/pbeez/32/2461_2.png) [@pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/pBeez)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/102 "2021-06-11T21:15:43Z")

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seems Greenshields was one of the first draws for suburbanities to venture downtown. I remember dragging my family down there, lol.

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**Author:** ![trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/trueurbanist/32/23903_2.png) [@trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/trueurbanist)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/103 "2021-06-11T21:29:35Z")

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I’d love to see the city market area be expanded and increased in density. I can see multiple brick colonial styled buildings with 2 stories worth retail and 5 stories for apartment/condo space.

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**Author:** ![keita](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/keita/32/354_2.png) [@keita](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/keita)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 6:57am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/104 "2021-07-02T06:57:35Z")

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Next week, City Council [will talk about](http://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=C48ERJ3BB248) a new strategy for rezoning the city-owned parking lot between Moore Square and Bloodworth St. as well as the surface parking lot next to City Market.

This move follows the city’s [disposition strategy of city-owned land](https://www.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/files/AQXVX4751386/%24file/20170912WorksessionPLANHRADowntownDispositionStrategyReportFinal.pdf) that Leo [wrote about a long time ago](https://dtraleigh.com/2017/10/strategy-forming-over-uses-of-city-owned-land-in-downtown-raleigh/). This is the “Moore Sq. East site”…

 ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/2X/7/7a88f164de18b47b00c606fe8c8f0bf62ee91253.jpeg)

…and here’s the “City Market site”.

 ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/2X/a/a5d9ecd20f652663b431e797ddb12ead670155a3.jpeg)

The Council [already voted to upzone the “City Market site”](https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2021/05/20/raleigh-aims-to-sell-downtown-land-to-fund-housing.html) so it could have buildings with up to 12 floors. This discussion will tie that together with the city’s goals on affordable housing as well as developing the Moore Sq. East site.

Staffers suggested a plan to eventually lease the Moore Sq. East site to a developer and get 120+ affordable units targeted for \> 60% AMI (and at least 10% of that aimed at people making 30% AMI). The City Market site, on the other hand, is envisioned to be sold so that its proceeds go to the city’s Affordable Housing Fund. If this happens, it means the City will get to have more affordable housing units, make more money to fund them, _ **AND** _ give new developers a chance to build (slightly) taller around City Market!

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**Author:** ![trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/trueurbanist/32/23903_2.png) [@trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/trueurbanist)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/105 "2021-07-02T15:54:12Z")

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I’d love for the buildings beside city market to be brick buildings to make them fit in with the rest of the buildings. Overall, I love these plans and look forward to seeing construction in the future.

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**Author:** ![Nickster](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/nickster/32/8765_2.png) [@Nickster](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Nickster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/106 "2021-07-07T13:29:59Z")

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Nothing really new here, but TBJ just ran a story about the city owned properties in the block east of Moore Square. Wants 20-story market rate housing on the Person Street side, and affordable housing on the Bloodworth Street side (currently zoned for 12 stories, but wanting to upzone to 20). Rezoning will run concurrent with the city owned City Market property rezoning (I believe that is up to 12 stories also for affordable housing). RFP will be sent out following rezoning approval (TBJ mentions rezoning could be approved as early as November).

[https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2021/07/07/city-or-raleigh-to-seek-developer-for-downtown.html](https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2021/07/07/city-or-raleigh-to-seek-developer-for-downtown.html)

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/107 "2021-10-22T18:49:49Z")

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Anyone know what’s going on in this space outside of the old Highhorse? May he some activity inside too?

 ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/2X/e/ee0cb7390437e700341d5657fe3123397b36310f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/108 "2021-10-22T18:52:06Z")

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I hope it’s High Horse!

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**Author:** ![niko](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@niko](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/niko)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/109 "2021-10-22T18:52:54Z")

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I wish (extra characters)

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**Author:** ![Jello212](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/8baadc/32.png) [@Jello212](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jello212)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/110 "2022-01-31T20:35:38Z")

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Public hearing is tomorrow

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**Author:** ![trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/trueurbanist/32/23903_2.png) [@trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/trueurbanist)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/111 "2022-06-11T23:42:29Z")

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I really hope that the developers who buy this sight consider preserving the historic character of the area. [https://twitter.com/cobylefko/status/1533290849722826752?s=21&t=yqrrImtxgQpzJbGeFAqLrA](https://twitter.com/cobylefko/status/1533290849722826752?s=21&t=yqrrImtxgQpzJbGeFAqLrA)

> <https://twitter.com/cobylefko/status/1528941683949424641?s=21&t=yqrrImtxgQpzJbGeFAqLrA>

> <https://twitter.com/cobylefko/status/1525677941895602176?s=21&t=yqrrImtxgQpzJbGeFAqLrA>

This would definitely look pretty decent if another developer wants to add more density to the current buildings.

> <https://twitter.com/cobylefko/status/1524587327032545285?s=21&t=yqrrImtxgQpzJbGeFAqLrA>

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**Author:** ![paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/paytonc/32/8502_2.png) [@paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/paytonc)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/112 "2022-06-15T17:41:11Z")

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The existing City Market buildings are not threatened. They’re protected by historic preservation laws.

IMO, a low-rise quarter surrounded by much taller buildings can also be awesome; that was the original vision of many of City Market’s 1980s “festival marketplace” peers, like South Street Seaport in Manhattan or Fanueil Hall Marketplace in Boston. That amount of retail requires a lot of foot traffic, which means a lot of nearby density.

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**Author:** ![JByrne](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jbyrne/32/55_2.png) [@JByrne](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/JByrne)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/113 "2022-06-20T13:06:34Z")

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Have y’all been to the CMAC Gallery at City Market? It’s like coworking but for artist gallery space. A great solution for tensions around rent being too high or spaces being too large: [Tenant Spotlight: C-MAC Gallery - Oak City CRE](https://oakcitycre.com/cmac/)

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**Author:** ![dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/dtraleigh/32/32735_2.png) [@dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/dtraleigh)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:01pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/114 "2022-06-23T12:01:03Z")

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New eats in the former Treat spot on Blount.

 ![PXL_20220623_115950442](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/e/9/e94eba9133d3183f54f5247d8f558ecd5d6857ce.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ADUsSomeday](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/adussomeday/32/13944_2.png) [@ADUsSomeday](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/ADUsSomeday)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 12:28am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/115 "2022-10-21T00:28:07Z")

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Was fun to see part of city market used for the night market tonight.

 ![PXL_20221020_225339606.MP](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/2/c/2c9eab0dcd9537ee68bfc3749210d6884ba5bb35.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![OakFolk](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/858c86/32.png) [@OakFolk](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakFolk)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/116 "2022-10-21T01:23:32Z")

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Poetry Fox! Speaking of Raleigh mascots…

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/117 "2022-10-21T14:16:01Z")

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I should look like this most nights of the week, or at LEAST Thurs-Sun…

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**Author:** ![ADUsSomeday](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/adussomeday/32/13944_2.png) [@ADUsSomeday](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/ADUsSomeday)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/118 "2022-10-21T21:29:50Z")

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I also realized that the whole block is part of the sip and stroll which could be a big win for them doing this

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**Author:** ![dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/dtraleigh/32/32735_2.png) [@dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/dtraleigh)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/119 "2022-11-17T17:37:35Z")

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More venue space for City Market. 🥱

> **[The Grove at City Market](https://www.historicmarkethall.com/thegrove)**

[![](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5cbf7a45e6666973cadbbfeb/1664450378531-4NQ8RQ2XXRJKCBXBKMM7/The+Grove+Rendering+September+2022+copy.jpg?format=1500w) ](https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5cbf7a45e6666973cadbbfeb/1664450378531-4NQ8RQ2XXRJKCBXBKMM7/The+Grove+Rendering+September+2022+copy.jpg?format=1500w)

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**Author:** ![horatio](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/f4b2a3/32.png) [@horatio](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/horatio)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2022, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/120 "2022-11-20T15:02:51Z")

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This is very bad news.

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**Author:** ![Nosyarg](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/nosyarg/32/90_2.png) [@Nosyarg](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Nosyarg)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/historic-city-market/193/121 "2022-11-21T19:39:09Z")

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Damn covid  
_wags fist at the sky_

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