That would be the only positive outcome to all this but not likely.
Found this little tidbit a couple of days ago.
Time to move IBM-RTP into Downtown Raleigh!
Talk about the need for more towers downtown!
One or Two Towers would’t hurt Raleigh.
Some tidbits about Redhat’s office space needs in downtown.
Recently, her team on the eighth floor saw renovations that provided for more workspace – and Red Hat is taking it floor by floor to find additional places to house new employees.
Alexander shied away from questions about when, exactly, that “magic” might run out, forcing Red Hat to examine other real estate options.
They already have 2,200 employees in the their tower. When and where will they expand?
Indeed, that was my question as well reading that story in the N&O.
So they are putting 60 work positions in new space to support 90+ workers. What happens when 65 come to office to work on same day.
Is the IBM facility in RTP at capacity?
I believe they use hot desking so if you have no desk assigned for that day, you work remote. (as in from home or from the office “collaborative” spaces)
I searched around but couldn’t find a better thread to add this post, so it’s here in the Edison Tower thread.
Maybe we need a ‘Redhat expansion plans in Downtown Raleigh’ thread. Assuming IBM doesn’t do something disruptive, one would expect Redhat to have to add people outside their current tower within 5 years.
The ‘City Center Parking Garage’ next door would be a great expansion site right next door, but it’s not built to support a structure on top of it. At least as far as I know…
Let’s just keep it here and expand the scope.
Lincoln Block makes the most sense to me.
Pre-IBM Red Hat hasn’t very keen on getting another building in Raleigh as they focused heavily on remote working, Brno, and Boston. I would be surprised if Red Hat decides to build another tower in Raleigh.
Me too. In addition to your points, IBM holds the purse strings now, and where does IBM put their employees?..
Yes, it’s not a surprise to anyone that IBM’s Triangle locations are non urban. But they’re from decades back.
It’s a different era now. Urban locations are the new trend. Also, there’s many who think Jim Whitehurst will be running IBM in a few years.
So when Redhat can wait no longer and has to expand outside of their current tower, they can:
- expand into a second tower in Raleigh
- move entirely to a new larger tower in Raleigh
- or move to another region altogether (Boston, for example).
But I doubt we’ll be seeing Redhatters out in no-wheres-ville RTP or some campus off Millbrook Avenue. They already moved from Centennial Campus to DTR. My bet is DTR is where they’ll expand.
I have had a lot of recruiters contact me about open positions at IBM and I always turn them down because I don’t want to have to commute out to RTP. I wonder if my position is in the minority or majority of popular opinion.
I would say minority. IBM, at least from my perspective, carries so much weight in terms of “that’s a good job.” I think the general workforce would see it that way versus others (the minority) that look for other things like a shorter commute or want a smaller company culture.
On paper, maybe. However, a lot of times certain buildings are ghost towns since certain teams are allowed to work remote.
PS. They are putting a lot of money into renovating the current buildings. Not sure if the master plan is to make everyone come into the office at some point or to bring some more (Red Hat) employees into the park.
I will say this. About 2 years ago they tried to make everyone come into the office. They made the announcement and immediately lost a bunch of very talented devs and designers who found jobs almost immediately. They quickly pulled back that announcement and only enforced the rule for certain teams.
I have a buddy that works at Redhat and he only has to come into the office maybe two times a week I think. He lives out in Angier.
I do recall an news report, maybe a year ago, that IBM was going to stop letting people work from home.