Yes, It appears 3 retail spaces will touch Martin St.
Huge glass front. Downtown Apple store?
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The underground parking will be 3 levels . If rezoning does happen , usually takes 3 to 6 months . Any tower over 6 floors requires dual fire lines from different streets & this has already been done .
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There is an interesting article in the Washington Post from February 4, âThe Rising Western Skylineâ which talks about the buildings going up in Denver, Seattle, Sacramento, Austin, etc that are 500-1000 ft. Some of them 70 stories. Iâm sure the developers are just seeing more potential there but Iâm not sure why they wouldnât see the potential here as well. I tried to upload the article here but was unsuccessful.
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Personal preference, is very much appreciated! Thank you!
This one is debatableâŚ
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I think it will be a great addition to DTR. All those rooftop spaces will be fantastic on a nice day. Lots of retail and a mixture of building heights and usages. This place will be hopping. Gensler and East-West Partners both do excellent work, too.
Even though there arenât any really big towers going up, thereâs a huge amount of new space proposed all over town. DTR might not have a Manhattan skyline when this is all done, but it will feel vastly more urban walking down the street.
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Hmmm an Apple store - are you just guessing? That would be great!
Also a Microsoft Store would be awesome downtown. A mega project like this would be a great home some tech retail.
I guess a Fryâs would be too much to hope for in an expensive retail location like this. The closest Fryâs is in north Atlanta (two of them there!).
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The renredings make it looks like thereâs a ground floor building blocking off the alley that runs between McDowell and Salisbury. But the Level 1 floor plan shows a dropoff for the hotel there.
Also, why does the one overhead rendering make W Hargett look all misaligned along this block?
Not likely happening but if theyâre looking for another store in Raleigh this is a good spot with the huge glass retail front.
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Currently each of those cities is larger and more densely populated than Raleigh. I donât think that these national developers will bypass Raleigh for much longer as its star rises. It just might take several more years, and after some of the current projects in the queue are completed. Success has a way of breeding more success.
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News & Observer updated their story to say the first tower will be 20 stories. 15 floors for office and 5 for parking.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article226608164.html
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<<â will never apologize that at this point in Raleighâs game, I want a better skyline. For years, we have been screaming density, density, density. Well, we have a hell of a lot more now. So, I am changing my mantra to height, height, height. One can dream
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Thatâs good to hear. Makes way more sense that they are maxing the zoning there. 15 story office didnât make sense.
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Itâs hard to tell from the render; it does seem to be just 15 floors from top to bottom.
Is this a tower on a parking podium, wrapped by offices?
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Well what am I going to do with all these pitchforks now?
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Stick them on top of the tower to make it bigger.
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Iâm actually very confused by that, because the renderings make it appear that the parking is set back and surrounded by office on the facade that faces Salisbury.
Thatâs what youâre seeing where the horizontal louvers are. I was assuming that where the mass transitions to glass is where itâs no longer parking.
But the site plan makes it appear that parking - at least on level 2 - goes pretty close to the street front, which would mean that thereâs parking behind some of that glass⌠maybe Iâm reading it wrong
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Honest question here. What is the obsession with height?
Is it more about a goal to have massive, big city density? Or is it more about how cool the skyline looks?
To me a city like Charlotte with a small-ish footprint and with massive buildings, seems kinda cold and soulless, but thats just my opinion.
To me, these 20 story projects are cool. They provide a good amount of density but kind of keep it feeling a bit more âbig small townâ and less âmega metropolisâ. Thereâs a whole different thread about Raleighâs brand and what sets it apart and to me, this is one of those things.
Itâs a city but itâs got that small town, friendly vibe going on. To me itâs the best of both worlds and itâs something a lot of cities canât replicate. Itâs also a reason why a lot of my family that come visit end up really liking it here.
Anyways, I was always rooting for super tall, super huge buildings and maybe it was subconsciously because I respect this community and itâs what most of you all wanted. However, todayâs mock ups from the N&O site made me step back and say âHey, I think this feels good and kind of fits this location.â
Anyways, just a question and a thought.
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On the height argument, donât forget that we might be getting the tallest tower possible but still at 15 floors. Letâs wait and see when the site plan is submitted.
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I hate sprawl, DTR is lacking high population to support retail businesses in DTR. Right now all Raleigh area developers see Raleigh as a line on a spreadsheet, I have higher expectations. Literally.
Plus we have the culture, Charlotte doesnât. But that doesnât mean eventually Charlotte wonât have that as well but they will have a more competent core.
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