Whatever process Charlotte does. The new 45 story residential apartment wasn’t originally 45 story but shorter. They just made it 45 stories and started construction a month later.
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When Charles Meeker was mayor he tenaciously pandererd to the Nimby audience. This has led to Raleigh failing to become the real city it was meant to be…
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Charles Meeker was urbanista he fought for light rail and everything. I wouldn’t necessary say that he oversaw Fayetteville Street revival, the reason we’re behind is because of the council we from 2015-2019.
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Still he have a problem.
It is a 10 to 15 business day turn around for City reviewers depending on type of review. It is on the consulting firm to respond to the code comments via a response to comments. If they are using a firm out of Atlanta or Charlotte they never get it correct. Plans are submitted without engineering stamps or fire flow analysis. This project had to resubmit as they changed the project from hotel to apartments.
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As someone actively going through a simple flag lot subdivision process on a 0.3 AC lot, yah…it’s extremely bureaucratic and tedious
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20 biz days for initial review of a simple subdivision, 15 biz days for subsequent reviews. This applied to a missing middle flag lot or townhome subdivision (splitting 1 lot into 2)
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Here is the times from the City. Development Review Turnaround Times | Raleighnc.gov I use to be a plan reviewer. From commercial buildings to subdivisions, to single family and you would be shocked at what is submitted. Applications are blank, standard items that have to be on the plans (engineer stamp) are not there. I have seen single family permits submitted without the survey being stamped/signed by surveyor or hand drawn plot plans a child could have done. As we say garbage in require resubmit. I still have plenty of contacts in the industry through my consulting work. I have seen and been on both sides of the process.
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I’m sure they receive a lot of trash.
My qualm currently is with the disconnect between the desire for sustainable starter homes, lowercase a affordable housing, and the current process for a well completed ADU or tiny home permit app.
As strong towns advocates for, the next increment of development intensity for a SFH lot should be permitted in hours, not months. (Assuming the application is completed correctly)
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I mean, of course the City Planning office thinks that the problem is everyone else. Let’s try and be a little self aware because if the problem is that all out-of-town engineering firms can’t get anything through Raleigh’s system, that means there’s a problem with our system.
I’m sure developers and engineers are not blameless but that can be true IN ADDITION to the fact that (1) our code and planning departments are woefully underfunded, (2) the City’s requirements are too thorough and time consuming, and (3) the City’s process doesn’t allow the same services to expedite these projects, either through formal processes or by making the process less adversarial.
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I agree the process can be greatly improved. Easier application to start. For ADU’s the address has to be assigned for police/fire/EMS and that should be done before first submittal instead of automatic resubmit to assign an address. As for out of town/out of state consulting firms once they submit they hopefully learn from the submittal process. Chick-Fil_A did. They use Atlanta firm. Some local firms submit plans and still after 20 years can’t submit plans without minor items that have to be on the plans. They use plan reviewers for quality control. I won’t name names. Energov isn’t the easiest system. For commercial review there are express review where minor items can be changed and red-lined with permits within week. Before I retired Kane’s projects were always on time and plans were correct. Kane and many larger residential builders have permit specialist that know what they are doing. Sometimes just email/phone call can resolve the items. Good discussion.
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Meanwhile is anyone building this thing?
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Noticed a fair amount of fresh paint for utility markings on the corner by Parkside today on my drive home. No telling if it is related though.
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Let’s hope those fresh markings are related. I am so ready for this project to break ground.
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Omg like they might actually build something???
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Could we see this and highline breaking ground this year? July 2024 is really shaping up to be memorable.
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Seems like the timing is they are probably anticipating a drop in interest rates. These 2 will be well positioned to get a jump on the market.
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410 feet tall. 2 floors less but about as tall as the Highline at Glenwood South–Highline might be taller by a hair.
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3rd tallest downtown! The Creamery resi tower (tied for 4th,ish)
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