# Raleigh and Statistical Area Population

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555>\
**Category:** The Pub\
**Created:** [September 18, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555 "2018-09-18T22:32:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1089 "2022-07-12T03:13:49Z")

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Have they been holding their breath and finally decided to report what the Census found in 2020?

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 5:16am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1090 "2022-07-12T05:16:33Z")

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Though that 2020 number has probably already changed significantly.

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1091 "2022-07-12T05:17:59Z")

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But for me all that matters is the merger of the Raleigh-Cary MSA with the Durham-Chapel Hill MSA we believe Urban Area accomplishes that.

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1092 "2022-07-12T12:54:39Z")

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The estimate for the following year didn’t change dramatically; fewer than 2000 were estimated to have been added to the population of the city proper. Some of these larger multifamily projects need to be completed before seeing significant upward trajectory, and many of the elderly living in single family houses throughout of the city need to move out of their houses as well before the next generation of young families can push the population higher. There are many homes in Raleigh that were bought new in the 70s and 80s that are still occupied by the aging original owners.

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**Author:** ![paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/paytonc/32/8502_2.png) [@paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/paytonc)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1093 "2022-07-12T19:36:37Z")

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Found an old but still curious site to view population density and estimate population within a circle/polygon. Based on 2015 estimates, but with more granularity than Census tracts:  
[https://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/mapping/popest/pes-v3/](https://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/mapping/popest/pes-v3/)

 ![Screen Shot 2022-07-12 at 12.56.56](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/f/a/fa1f1234173f79b3d76f3d0118d22a7a97486393.jpeg)

Population density dips around the north Beltline, likely due both to the high concentration of commercial uses and the absurdly low, exclusionarily zoned densities there ([soon to change](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/zoning-and-density/825/294)). What other areas stand out?

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1094 "2022-07-12T22:17:13Z")

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> [@paytonc](#):
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> What other areas stand out?

RDU  
Umstead Park  
Fairgrounds/Stadium/Arena  
Crabtree Valley  
Triangle Town Center

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**Author:** ![bnsy17](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f05b48/32.png) [@bnsy17](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/bnsy17)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1095 "2022-07-28T13:45:02Z")

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For what it’s worth, losing AA helped shape RDU in the long-term. If it was still a hub, we’d never have the options we have today. We’re one of the few airports to have such diverse options in such a way. We’d also still probably have the old building had they never left.

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1096 "2022-07-28T17:06:13Z")

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I agree that RDU is a better airport without the monopoly of a hub. Competition to key markets is important to keeping fares under control.

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1097 "2022-07-28T19:00:10Z")

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I still think United should setup a hub since American and United have most of our competitive flights and key markets. However not every city has a Raleigh-Durham connection.

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**Author:** ![bnsy17](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f05b48/32.png) [@bnsy17](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/bnsy17)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1098 "2022-07-28T19:15:23Z")

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United is supposedly opening a maintenance base at RDU this fall. Delta’s subsidiary, Endeavor, has a maintenance base here as well. United is going all mainline in Q2 2023

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**Author:** ![sthomper](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/54ee81/32.png) [@sthomper](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/sthomper)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1099 "2022-07-29T02:50:36Z")

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i used to do reservations for rdu late 80’s. noone liked the hub and spoke stuff.

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**Author:** ![bnsy17](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f05b48/32.png) [@bnsy17](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/bnsy17)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1100 "2022-07-29T03:08:29Z")

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American heavily underestimated the O&D demand too, so security and check in space was minimal.

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1101 "2022-09-01T12:49:16Z")

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> **[Downtown Raleigh's population could double in next decade, with nearly $2...](https://www.wral.com/downtown-raleigh-s-population-could-double-in-next-decade-with-nearly-2-billion-in-new-development-projects/20441732/)**
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> On Wednesday, more than 600 city leaders, developers, business owners and realtors gathered at the Raleigh Convention Center to hear the annual report on the State of Downtown.

I don’t think that this should surprise anyone. Isn’t it amazing how population and density increases when you build housing downtown? In the last few years, it’s become increasingly obvious by the amount of foot traffic on the sidewalks during weekday evenings. The weekdays used to be a ghost town around downtown.

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**Author:** ![RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/robertsanderlin/32/59_2.png) [@RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/RobertSanderlin)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1102 "2022-09-01T12:56:35Z")

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This from the DTRAlliance has both a copy of and an interactive of the afore mentioned from John and our esteemed leader, Leo!

> **[State of Downtown 2022 | Downtown Raleigh Alliance](https://downtownraleigh.org/sod-2022?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2022.09.01%20RAL&utm_term=RALtoday%20Subscribers%20-%20MASTER)**
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> State of Downtown 2022 | Downtown Raleigh Alliance

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**Author:** ![ahops0428](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/ahops0428/32/11931_2.png) [@ahops0428](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/ahops0428)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1103 "2022-09-01T19:07:09Z")

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[Report: Raleigh area adding nearly 10,000 apartments in 2022 (cbs17.com)](https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/wake-county-news/report-raleigh-area-adding-nearly-10000-apartments-in-2022/)

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1104 "2022-09-01T20:33:36Z")

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And crazily enough, it’s still probably peanuts compared to what’s needed to slow the rental-hike rates 😬 😬 😬

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1105 "2022-09-01T21:11:23Z")

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To be honest here, just over 9100 isn’t almost 10,000. Almost 10,000 to me would be over 9500, but that’s just me. That said, the more interesting data point is how many of them are in Raleigh alone. That’s an impressive number.

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**Author:** ![919raised](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/9/e480ec/32.png) [@919raised](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/919raised)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1106 "2022-09-19T20:33:33Z")

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Stumbled across this blog [post](https://www.ncdemography.org/2022/03/24/county-estimates-show-more-deaths-than-births-pandemic-migration/) that shows Wake and Raleigh suburbs grew some of the fastest. This is well known, but it also showed Durham and Mecklenburg growth slowing way down due to net migration out of the counties.

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1107 "2022-09-19T23:15:39Z")

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Until Wake passed Mecklenburg, Carolina Demography was projecting that Meck would lead Wake for decades to come.

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**Author:** ![919raised](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/9/e480ec/32.png) [@919raised](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/919raised)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-statistical-area-population/555/1108 "2022-09-20T01:41:08Z")

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So what your saying is… don’t trust em haha

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