# Raleigh and the Suburbs

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691>\
**Category:** The Pub\
**Created:** [November 1, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691 "2018-11-01T19:44:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![COD](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/b4bc9f/32.png) [@COD](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/COD)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/122 "2022-03-10T21:17:39Z")

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The firm who does these studies, Urban3, did a good [presentation](https://youtu.be/yicYz2PO1IQ?t=2500) of Cary 2 years ago. Great explanation and gives some reason to why we see Downtown Cary expanding a lot today.

They also start off with a zoomed-out graphic of Wake County. Interesting to see North Hills compared to DTR.

 ![Wake County Value Map](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/2X/6/6252521e31e70ef8aff49c4e734991b7b165ec98.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![OakFolk](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/858c86/32.png) [@OakFolk](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakFolk)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/123 "2023-11-16T15:19:34Z")

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[https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/11/16/pultegroup-buys-land-new-homes-exchange-at-401.html](https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/11/16/pultegroup-buys-land-new-homes-exchange-at-401.html)

The address is technically Raleigh, though it is more like Garner. Developer of the Exchange at 401 bought 30 more acres for “future phases of development”. No further discussion on the plans. Current existing and planned community consists of SFH’s, townhomes and apartments.

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**Author:** ![Bryan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/bryan/32/23168_2.png) [@Bryan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Bryan)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/124 "2023-12-06T16:19:04Z")

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> **[Storyliving by Disney Announces Asteria, New Residential Community in North...](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/storyliving-by-disney-announces-asteria-new-residential-community-in-north-carolina-302007738.html)**
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> /PRNewswire/ -- Storyliving by Disney announces plans for Asteria, a new residential community located near Raleigh, Durham and Chapel Hill, North Carolina....

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**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/125 "2023-12-06T16:24:17Z")

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“The community will come to life on 1,500 acres in the heart of North Carolina’s picturesque Chatham County. Ideally situated in the town of Pittsboro, residents will have access to metropolitan amenities with the charm of a small town.”

Someone on this forum just took their shirt off!

 ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/d/9/d94eec5344c52fe01e478b8cb7bc349d1a5e7194.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Mgwolf](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mgwolf/32/37254_2.png) [@Mgwolf](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Mgwolf)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/126 "2023-12-06T16:27:14Z")

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I _guess_ you can say Pittsboro is near Raleigh and Durham.

Seems like a nightmare to me, but Disney adults have to live somewhere I guess!

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**Author:** ![Deb](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Deb](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Deb)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/127 "2023-12-06T16:42:55Z")

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> designed to encourage exploration of the region’s natural beauty

Bulldozing a region’s natural beauty so people can live in the Truman Show and inauthentically attempt to explore “natural beauty” in a highly designed and controlled environment. 🤔 Definitely on-brand.

To each their own, I guess!

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**Author:** ![JeepCSC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/58956e/32.png) [@JeepCSC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/JeepCSC)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/128 "2023-12-06T16:51:30Z")

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I’d go for the character breakfasts and maybe the area’s first monorail.

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/129 "2023-12-06T16:57:45Z")

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yeah nahhhh, this is simply WEIRD AS F\*\*K 👎 👎 👎 👎

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**Author:** ![Bryan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/bryan/32/23168_2.png) [@Bryan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Bryan)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/130 "2023-12-06T16:59:18Z")

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Not my cup of tea; but, I am sure there are some people that would love it!

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**Author:** ![Daniel](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/daniel/32/12617_2.png) [@Daniel](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Daniel)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/131 "2023-12-06T17:14:53Z")

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Mine neither, but this is undoubtedly positive for the region.

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**Author:** ![pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/pbeez/32/2461_2.png) [@pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/pBeez)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/132 "2023-12-06T17:31:30Z")

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Chatham is destined to be the Orange County (CA) of NC.

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/133 "2023-12-06T17:36:38Z")

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Very exciting, I hope they approve it. Take that NIMBYs.

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**Author:** ![Kanatenah](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/kanatenah/32/1380_2.png) [@Kanatenah](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Kanatenah)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/134 "2023-12-06T17:40:38Z")

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WhAtAbOuTtHeTrAfFic? AnDtHeShAdOws?

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**Author:** ![trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/trueurbanist/32/23903_2.png) [@trueurbanist](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/trueurbanist)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/135 "2023-12-06T17:50:26Z")

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Based on the lack of density in this rendering, I disagree with you. If this development was similar to Budleigh East it would help provide housing for lower to middle income families and not just households with higher incomes.

More housing is better than no housing so whatever.

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**Author:** ![dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/dtraleigh/32/32735_2.png) [@dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/dtraleigh)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/136 "2023-12-06T19:23:17Z")

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Thinking about this, you’d need a pretty rigid HOA to maintain the Disney theme over time. What’s to stop people from just buying a home and then making it their own? Also, what if these are just rentals?

Housing is weird these days.

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**Author:** ![paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/paytonc/32/8502_2.png) [@paytonc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/paytonc)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/137 "2023-12-06T19:26:48Z")

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> [@Yimbyforlife](#):
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> I hope they approve it

Seems like it’s part of Chatham Park, which is already approved. My guess is that it’s NE of 64 Bypass and Chatham Park Way. The adopted [North Village Small Area Plan](https://pittsboronc.gov/400/Chatham-Park) covers 2,226 acres; subtract out 700 acres for already-underway phases (Vineyards and Mosaic) plus two business park landbays south of 64 Bypass and that’s 1,500 acres, entitled for a maximum of 5,061 units. The press release says 1,500 acres and “more than 4,000” units.

The buried lede is that DMB is doing a project in the East; they’re a huge force in the Southwest with several multi-decade 5,000+ acre master-planned communities under their belt (e.g., DC Ranch, Verrado, Rancho Mission Viejo).

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**Author:** ![Deekay93](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Deekay93](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Deekay93)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/138 "2023-12-06T19:58:52Z")

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> **[New Discoveries Await in North Carolina at Asteria, a Storyliving by Disney...](https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2023/12/new-discoveries-await-in-north-carolina-at-asteria-a-storyliving-by-disney-community/)**
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> Just announced! Storyliving by Disney is coming to North Carolina!

Disney announced they’ll be building a residential community in Pittsboro.

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/139 "2023-12-06T20:18:16Z")

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Disney did this decades ago outside of Orlando near Disney World. The town is called Celebration. I’m sure they learned a lot there and also plenty for prospective residents to refer to if considering moving to the NC version of that.

[Celebration, FL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida?wprov=sfti1)

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**Author:** ![pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/pbeez/32/2461_2.png) [@pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/pBeez)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/140 "2023-12-06T20:32:30Z")

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Be nice if we could be planning eventual passenger rail from the Triangle to Triad or Charlotte via Pittsboro and Siler City. Made me get a different model of development for change and preserve more of that truly pretty countryside.

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**Author:** ![wanderer](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/a9a28c/32.png) [@wanderer](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/wanderer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/raleigh-and-the-suburbs/691/141 "2023-12-07T00:42:53Z")

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If it went by the zoo, then sure. I wouldn’t taking a train ride to the zoo.

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