# Smoky Hollow Phases 1, 2, and 3

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29>\
**Category:** New Construction\
**Created:** [May 22, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29 "2018-05-22T16:10:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2588 "2019-12-18T03:39:34Z")

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In case you’re interested or just curious.

> **[Peace Raleigh | Apartments in Downtown Raleigh, NC](https://peaceraleighapartments.com/)**
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> Located in the Smoky Hollow neighborhood in the heart of all Downtown Raleigh has to offer, residents of Peace Raleigh enjoy the best luxury features.

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**Author:** ![Speck](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Speck](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Speck)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2589 "2019-12-18T04:18:51Z")

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Do we know when people will move in? I know they had previously said it would open in April but it seems like it could be sooner then that.

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2590 "2019-12-18T04:28:19Z")

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I think April is still the date. I’ll ask to confirm though.

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**Author:** ![Mitch](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mitch/32/3284_2.png) [@Mitch](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Mitch)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2591 "2019-12-18T04:47:36Z")

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> [@OakCityDylan](#):
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> Peace Raleigh Apartments | Studios, 1, 2 & 3 Bedrooms

Wow, up to $2k for a studio, $3k for a 1/1 and $4.9k for a 3/2? I would assume you were paying for the view, but equivalent units aren’t all that much less expensive on the lower floors.

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2592 "2019-12-18T05:09:39Z")

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I wonder who’s going to be renting those 3 bedroom units for nearly 5 grand a month. I mean, that’s pushing 60 grand a year for an apartment in Raleigh. Chew on that a while.

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**Author:** ![RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/robertsanderlin/32/59_2.png) [@RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/RobertSanderlin)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2593 "2019-12-18T11:29:56Z")

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Could be those new Microsoft employees who’ll be working in RTP and commuting?

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 11:53am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2594 "2019-12-18T11:53:17Z")

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Confirmed. Still April target opening.

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**Author:** ![Boltman](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/boltman/32/4345_2.png) [@Boltman](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Boltman)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2595 "2019-12-18T13:07:07Z")

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Glad I’m not young anymore. Apartment living is expensive these days.

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**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2596 "2019-12-18T13:21:37Z")

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These corner units are going to have quite the view of cars flying down Peace St. towards their living room.  
[https://screenshots.firefox.com/lAa1rGc1PFNFjcz9/peaceraleighapartments.com](https://screenshots.firefox.com/lAa1rGc1PFNFjcz9/peaceraleighapartments.com)

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2597 "2019-12-18T13:34:12Z")

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Holy f\*\*\* just buy a house at that point… sheeeeesh. That is insane.

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2598 "2019-12-18T13:46:19Z")

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With a 20% down payment plus HOA vs first/last month’s rent. Different strokes.

But that’s the math I did in my head at first as well. That’s a damn mortgage payment!

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**Author:** ![scotchman](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/scotchman/32/3024_2.png) [@scotchman](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/scotchman)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2599 "2019-12-18T13:46:51Z")

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💰 💰 💰 💰 💰 This is how many $1000 bags of money you need to 1132. In Addition to rent it’s my understanding that renters have to pay utilities. Also cute that on the Resident Services page they use a bundle of money for payments, truth in icons??. 😁

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**Author:** ![Tenkai](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/tenkai/32/2845_2.png) [@Tenkai](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Tenkai)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2600 "2019-12-18T14:04:58Z")

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Apologies if these images are already in this thread, but saw these in the gallery for the apartments:

![](https://peaceraleighapartments.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/carousel-neighborhood-01-1536x843.jpg)  
 ![](https://peaceraleighapartments.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/carousel-neighborhood-04-1536x843.jpg)

For comparison with older renderings from last year:

 ![Smoky Hollow Promenade Rndrg](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e02a4ce36dd46699f162417cfd4c62f225408d10.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2601 "2019-12-18T14:17:09Z")

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I love it and can’t wait!

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**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2603 "2019-12-18T14:27:14Z")

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String Lights?!! Did this get authorization from the RFD?

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**Author:** ![elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/elevatoroperator)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2604 "2019-12-18T14:41:54Z")

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There’s a couple more I haven’t seen [on Kane’s website](http://www.kanerealtycorp.com/project/the-line/). A bunch of interior shots and some minor tweaks to exterior:

 ![image](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a1dcf8952e3791530b0cd6f8b9d2f1f99e2b7482.jpeg)  
They’ve replaced the sculptural concrete columns with steel and cleaned up the articulation of the retail. Looks more cohesive imo.

 ![image](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9269d0e692c40397bc97b1acf97e12e4bfc48018.jpeg)  
New view from courtyard, featuring strategically placed trees.

 ![image](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f84b21fe1671c2062f7f82dc50df7037cc5b05a8.jpeg)  
Entry to the office building.

 ![image](https://community.dtraleigh.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/71df6d10145878370c07d3e3307dd6b72772bafd.jpeg)  
Amenity deck. Wonder if any of this is shared with the office building.

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**Author:** ![Street\_Grid](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/street_grid/32/532_2.png) [@Street\_Grid](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Street_Grid)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2605 "2019-12-18T14:42:36Z")

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It generally looks a bit more generic IMO. I like the string lights, but miss the freestanding public art, the art on the ceiling of the building, and the extra plants from the old rendering.

Edit: obviously still a great project! Really glad this I’d downtown and essentially growing DTR instead of an isolated development.

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**Author:** ![pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/pbeez/32/2461_2.png) [@pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/pBeez)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2606 "2019-12-18T14:44:58Z")

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Looks like they upped some of the detailing/finishes in the new drawings. Also, the crowd they inserted has changed. The fake people look older (though real young to my eyes, lol) less “hipster” and less diverse. Maybe this is a reflection of who they think they can pay these prices - or maybe is reflects nothing at all, lol. Just an observation on my part.

Last thing - reading the promo literature, oh my gosh I want a job writing this kind of copy, lol. I can’t get the ad for the Lofts in South Park (SoMaDoPa?) out of my head.

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**Author:** ![elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/elevatoroperator)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2607 "2019-12-18T14:45:37Z")

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Unfortunately, trees and art are usually just entourage placed arbitrarily into images by interns or renderers. They are rarely reflective of the actual landscape plan or art budget and are only in renderings to sell a “vibe,” which can be very misleading.

For example, look at the second view I posted, of the courtyard. Those trees are unrealistically large and lush to block the view of the parking deck. In reality, if those trees actually even get planted there, they are not going to provide that kind of screening for a good number of years.

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**Author:** ![Tenkai](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/tenkai/32/2845_2.png) [@Tenkai](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Tenkai)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/smoky-hollow-phases-1-2-and-3/29/2608 "2019-12-18T15:01:43Z")

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FYI: Revelator Coffee is a real thing.

> **[Revelator Coffee](https://revelatorcoffee.com/)**
>
> Brewing and roasting coffee in Birmingham, Atlanta, New Orleans, and Nashville. Celebrating our Southern community, everywhere.

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