# State Government

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35>\
**Category:** The Pub\
**Created:** [May 23, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35 "2018-05-23T13:29:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 12

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/222 "2022-10-26T15:52:06Z")

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Lovely - I won’t complain too much about lack of height/density nor the lack of mixed-use in development, as this is of course a much needed renovation and expansion of an antiquated public resource and tourist attraction! PLUS it seems the green space planned for the Southern half of the lot (current parking lot/ soon-to-be museum expansion building) can eventually be developed further if/when it’s needed or someone offers to buy it. Seems like a win/win to me!!! This new wing, if done RIGHT with cool, modern features and interactive attractions inside- paired with planned Science Museum expansion to include the new T-Rex skeleton display- will absolutely be a big deal and a huge draw for tourism.

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**Author:** ![TedF](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@TedF](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/TedF)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/223 "2022-10-26T16:13:41Z")

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The real question that you missed completely is how best to spend the huge surplus of money our state has. That should be the debate. And please millions are NOT moving here each year. I think it was only about a million in the last decade.

> **['I can only have one forkful': North Carolina has $6.2 billion state budget...](https://www.dailytarheel.com/article/2022/08/city-state-budget-surplus)**
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> N.C. Rep. Graig Meyer, D-Orange, Caswell, said the surplus came from a couple different sources including federal assistance during the pandemic and sales tax from online purchasing. The sales tax has only been in effect since 2018 and revenue from...

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**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/224 "2022-10-26T16:16:24Z")

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Isn’t the wing across the street (into the parking lot) earmarked to be the Governor’s new office block per @mike 's comment above on July 12?

If they can fit both uses on there, that’d be perfect.

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**Author:** ![EllieB](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/2acd7d/32.png) [@EllieB](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/EllieB)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/225 "2022-10-26T16:56:38Z")

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How do TN, TX and FL do it? Maybe we need a bunch of taxes on the people who vacation in this state, like FL does.

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/226 "2022-10-26T16:59:38Z")

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Who vacations in NC? Lame… LOL.

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/227 "2022-10-26T16:59:55Z")

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Yup, tourism tax. But Florida, at least, is the home of Disney World, Universal Studios Orlando, SeaWorld, Busch Gardens Tampa - not to mention Miami, and more than a few NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA and MLS teams. NC has tourism but def not on the same level at all.

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/228 "2022-10-26T17:02:57Z")

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OBX and WNC would like a word… especially Great Smoky Mountain National Park - THE most visited NP in the entire USA…

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/229 "2022-10-26T17:16:29Z")

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Higher sales tax and a captive transient audience that pays it, and because residents don’t have state income tax, they don’t care paying the higher sales tax.

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**Author:** ![pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/pbeez/32/2461_2.png) [@pBeez](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/pBeez)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/230 "2022-10-26T17:19:52Z")

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Sales tax and crazy high property taxes.  
My brother’s bill in Ft Worth jumped about 5k over 2 years. They had to sell the house!

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/231 "2022-10-26T17:22:19Z")

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Well then given the already insanely high mortgages Raleigh homeowners are getting now, I don’t think jacking up their property taxes to an insane degree to cover for lowering income taxes is going to be very popular…

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/232 "2022-10-30T15:11:44Z")

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The $$ responsibility will just be pushed to counties, cities, property owners, consumers and tourists.

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**Author:** ![UncleJesse](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/df705f/32.png) [@UncleJesse](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/UncleJesse)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/233 "2022-10-30T23:26:09Z")

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Insanely high? 6%? We have just been living in an unsustainable bubble for 10 years. 2,3,4% interest rates are simply “not normal” & were only where they were due to aggressive FED policies unlike anything we have seen in a century.

“Insanely high” is a bit melodramatic…not downplaying the impact is real but those rates were what was really “insane” & a big driver of the inflationary pressures we see today. 2008 & Covid were “outside events” that kept rates historically low for way too long. Inflation was inevitable….

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/234 "2022-12-10T22:46:35Z")

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Archdale is trash but that’ll be the only eyesore really.

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**Author:** ![dbearhugnc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/dbearhugnc/32/4224_2.png) [@dbearhugnc](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/dbearhugnc)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/235 "2022-12-11T01:55:50Z")

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Or, a monument to Brutalism.

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/236 "2022-12-11T02:58:59Z")

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Yeah the state doesn’t to care and won’t replace it it’s the reason why Steve Malik proposal was the fatal mistake in the MLS Bid.

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**Author:** ![Vic](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Vic](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Vic)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:11pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/237 "2022-12-12T16:11:02Z")

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That’s not true. There is a study in progress for a heavy renovation with option of demolition and rebuild. Look in the state govt complex thread, there were discussions about it.

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/238 "2022-12-12T16:50:20Z")

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Yeahhh, Yimby4life isn’t exactly known for sharing true info lmao. A whole lotta uninformed rambling and straight up misinformation posted by them. Not to mention that initial Seaboard soccer stadium proposal was a pie-in-the-sky proposal that was DOA and should’ve NEVER been taken seriously to begin with… lmao. Of course the Archdale Building has been _rumored_ to be on the chopping block… but it has been for _ **years** _ so I really take any rumbling of its demolition with a giant boulder of salt. That said, I love that building for how ugly it is. It’s “so ugly it’s cute” I like to say. I wouldn’t mind it remaining and maybe given a nice paint job, or at least become surrounded by more aesthetically pleasing buildings. But @Yimbyforlife - Highly suggest you stop and consider facts and verifiable info before just posting whatever comes to your mind… you do that a lot and it has made the site a toss-up when I open a thread of whether I’m going to see some meaningful discussion, or just your uninformed opinions or umpteenth comment rambling about wanting a Gucci store.

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**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/239 "2022-12-12T17:10:11Z")

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One of my favorite buildings in Raleigh actually the PS2. Maybe if it were on top 7 levels of parking wrapped in blue glass it might win an award. The only thing I must admit to, is having never been inside, it might be miserable for those office workers with no windows 8 floors up.

 ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/f/d/fdd091c8c853043092358598d475aeb03c3838b8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DavidE](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/davide/32/28044_2.png) [@DavidE](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/DavidE)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/240 "2022-12-12T17:40:27Z")

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I was a summer intern back in 92 and I can tell you that building was bad then. I cannot imagine 30 years later what it is like.

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**Author:** ![CarnifeX](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@CarnifeX](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/CarnifeX)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/state-government/35/241 "2022-12-12T18:02:27Z")

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> [@Jake](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind it remaining and maybe given a nice paint job

> [@Jake](#):
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> Gucci

That’s the mural we need! Just a huge Gucci logo!!! It’d be glorious.

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