# Status planned mixed/use development pipeline

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276>\
**Category:** New Construction\
**Created:** [June 13, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276 "2018-06-13T20:13:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ahops0428](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/ahops0428/32/11931_2.png) [@ahops0428](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/ahops0428)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/164 "2023-02-01T14:51:28Z")

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330 W Hargett/Legends and Vela were my choices. I was hoping to see Salisbury Square, Creamery, and Madison all start last year and nothing happened with all three of them ☹

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/165 "2023-02-01T15:00:05Z")

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I voted Park city South phase 2 simply because Kane is attached. And the Vela does seem all but a given.

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**Author:** ![largesevan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/largesevan/32/14449_2.png) [@largesevan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/largesevan)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/166 "2023-02-01T15:26:37Z")

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Voted for Vela & Salisbury Square. Seems like most of us are on the same page 😁 now let’s hope our predictions are correct! 🔮

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**Author:** ![mario](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@mario](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mario)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/167 "2023-02-01T16:38:50Z")

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I thought they had done some demo and site prep over 2022 for salisbury square? The wikipedia list of tallest buildings has had that one listed as under construction for a while now

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**Author:** ![ahops0428](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/ahops0428/32/11931_2.png) [@ahops0428](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/ahops0428)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/168 "2023-02-01T18:10:38Z")

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You’re right in one aspect, but I’m more referring to stuff like this article I’ve included here. Back in March 2022 they were predicting the first residents would be moving in Spring 2024 timeframe, which doesn’t look likely at this rate.

[DTR’s Two-Towers Salisbury Square Project to Start Construction in May (raleighmag.com)](https://raleighmag.com/2022/03/square-one/)

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**Author:** ![dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/dtraleigh/32/32735_2.png) [@dtraleigh](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/dtraleigh)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/169 "2023-02-01T21:48:52Z")

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2 posts were merged into an existing topic: [The Creamery building in Glenwood South](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-creamery-building-in-glenwood-south/1625/472)

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**Author:** ![RaleighFollower](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/raleighfollower/32/16875_2.png) [@RaleighFollower](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/RaleighFollower)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/170 "2023-02-02T02:50:32Z")

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What processes and planning has the Vela gone through that everyone thinks it will happen soon? I voted for the Creamery and Salisbury Square.

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**Author:** ![Vatnos](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/vatnos/32/6563_2.png) [@Vatnos](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Vatnos)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/171 "2023-02-02T03:23:44Z")

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My personal algorithm that predicts the likelihood of a tower happening is an inverse relationship to the proximity to the Nexus site.

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**Author:** ![OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakcitydylan/32/169_2.png) [@OakCityDylan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakCityDylan)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/172 "2023-02-02T03:30:43Z")

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Did anyone vote for Creamery and Vela?

_Poll ([view on site](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/172))_

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**Author:** ![mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mike/32/26_2.png) [@mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mike)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/173 "2023-02-02T15:24:04Z")

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I also voted Creamery & Salisbury Square - both with approved ASR. Vela does not have their ASR approved yet (looks to be on their 3rd attempt).

I’d love for all three to start up soon though!

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**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/174 "2023-02-02T15:57:59Z")

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I think Vela will get there’s soon.

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**Author:** ![Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/francisco/32/10233_2.png) [@Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Francisco)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/175 "2023-02-16T23:24:29Z")

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Vela and 222 W Hargett Street projects have Design Alternative reviews on March 3rd. So guessing these won’t start any time soon.

Vela Longview will be 336 feet tall.

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**Author:** ![RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/robertsanderlin/32/59_2.png) [@RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/RobertSanderlin)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/176 "2023-02-16T23:43:29Z")

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> [@Francisco](#):
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> Design Alternative reviews

Sorry, are you able to elaborate? Is this a requirement or request?  
Please and thank you!

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**Author:** ![Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/francisco/32/10233_2.png) [@Francisco](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Francisco)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/177 "2023-02-17T00:15:01Z")

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It means that the plans are not compliant with standard building design regulations so these developers are asking the city to accept alternative design plans (with justifications). Can’t build without fully approved plans.

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/178 "2023-02-17T00:20:51Z")

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Sounds to me like the developer wants to propose some design changes (probably value engineering).

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**Author:** ![RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/robertsanderlin/32/59_2.png) [@RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/RobertSanderlin)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/179 "2023-02-17T01:09:30Z")

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To your knowledge would any developer (much less John Kane) not know what would be compliant before they provide plans?

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**Author:** ![RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/robertsanderlin/32/59_2.png) [@RobertSanderlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/RobertSanderlin)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/180 "2023-02-17T01:11:36Z")

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Would that be more inline with me making a change to my new home plans after I have agreed to them?

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**Author:** ![mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mike/32/26_2.png) [@mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mike)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/181 "2023-02-17T13:57:54Z")

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Vela wants a relief from the ‘build-to’ setback requirements. Makes sense to me due to the odd shaped site.

330 W Hargett wants to have a loading dock that trucks can back into on S. Harrington. Seems reasonable.

Here’s a 3d view of Vela included with that application:

 ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/7/4/74ca2cf12ad265158901e064f7215d35c1f51170.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mike/32/26_2.png) [@mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mike)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/182 "2023-02-17T14:42:23Z")

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How about this again but for projects with heights of 5-19 floors…

_Poll ([view on site](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/182))_

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**Author:** ![aqdillman71](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@aqdillman71](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/aqdillman71)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276/183 "2023-02-20T13:50:00Z")

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Does anyone know what is being built on South Blount, between Bragg Street and Branch Street? I beleive I have the location correct. Maybe affordable housing? The site is quite large and is completedly cleared. I was not sure which thread to post it on so here we go.

[Previous page](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276.md?page=8)

[Next page](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/status-planned-mixed-use-development-pipeline/276.md?page=10)
