# The future of downtown's historic neighborhoods **URL:** \ **Category:** The Pub\ **Created:** [June 28, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339 "2018-06-28T14:23:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![svp](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/svp/32/18832_2.png) [@svp](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/svp)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/183 "2023-02-21T17:46:27Z")
This is a BOYLAN HEIGHTS post - new build SF house beside the Lenoir Street pocket park. Look at how much house they were able to get on this lot! As some of these older less maintained homes age out, I can see more infill projects in the future. Great location and you still have your single family house. Given the demand and high cost of land, building back to this expanded level just makes sense. ![IMG_7979](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/a/a/aa8ccce5f40fc15f21b102f885d1c66ec708b528.jpeg) ![IMG_7980](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/3/4/34194f318e43d97008231569f1267da62ee586ba.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Deb](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Deb](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Deb)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/184 "2023-02-22T03:10:48Z")
I’ve seen that park flood above the crawl space level on the house that used to be there. It’s happened twice since I’ve lived here. I hope the new owners are installing a good sump pump. ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/185 "2023-02-24T22:05:15Z")
Clover Lane rezoning public discussion to continue on 3/7 [https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-raleigh-wire-service/748/2199?u=oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-raleigh-wire-service/748/2199) ---
**Author:** ![OakdaleZach](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/oakdalezach/32/20181_2.png) [@OakdaleZach](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/OakdaleZach)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/186 "2023-02-26T01:46:31Z")
Does anyone have additional information on what is going to happen with the former Circus Family Restaurant? I’ve heard rumors that the City may try to purchase it to improve the intersection at Brookside/Automotive/Wake Forest…? ---
**Author:** ![mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mmodlin/32/30890_2.png) [@mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mmodlin)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/187 "2023-02-27T14:08:56Z")
Person and Blount construction page linked below. If you scroll down, there are some links for the currently-planned roundabout for that intersection. It looks like Circus would lose some of their parking. > **[Blount St and Person St Two-Way Conversion Project](https://raleighnc.gov/projects/blount-st-and-person-st-two-way-conversion-project)** ---
**Author:** ![JetsJessie](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@JetsJessie](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/JetsJessie)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/188 "2023-02-27T14:42:27Z")
Welcome! And thank you for the info ---
**Author:** ![NoRaAintAllBad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/9de053/32.png) [@NoRaAintAllBad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/NoRaAintAllBad)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/189 "2023-02-27T14:58:32Z")
![Screen Shot 2023-02-27 at 9.57.56 AM](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/e/1/e1ca96e89a109171ac8ad59ee61db922463fa6b1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NoRaAintAllBad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/9de053/32.png) [@NoRaAintAllBad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/NoRaAintAllBad)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/190 "2023-02-27T21:36:27Z")
Seems like that 1.38 acre lot that Circus sits on would be a natural spot for a 3-5 story mixed use building in the near future… ---
**Author:** ![Spero](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@Spero](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Spero)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/191 "2023-02-28T14:17:10Z")
Is Circus open? I drive by it semi-regularly and I don’t know that I’ve ever seen anyone there ---
**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/192 "2023-02-28T14:21:43Z")
No, they closed almost a year ago. ---
**Author:** ![NoRaAintAllBad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/9de053/32.png) [@NoRaAintAllBad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/NoRaAintAllBad)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/193 "2023-02-28T14:30:58Z")
![Screen Shot 2023-02-28 at 9.30.34 AM](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/0/e/0e3ede5c84580ee66118f892191d906b05434e2c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/a88e4f/32.png) [@Yimbyforlife](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Yimbyforlife)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 5:37am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/194 "2023-03-01T05:37:18Z")
Haven’t been there maybe I should go before it closes. Never mind, I’d never been there ---
**Author:** ![mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mmodlin/32/30890_2.png) [@mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mmodlin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/195 "2023-03-01T14:03:33Z")
I used to go all the time, it was a really good burger-in-a-sack type place. ---
**Author:** ![mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mike/32/26_2.png) [@mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mike)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/196 "2023-03-03T18:58:26Z")
Whoa, 1113 & 1201 Brookside Dr… Scope Review Project: “Casa Brookside - Two separate development sites with a shared driveway. Apartment building type. Currently planning for one 22 unit building and one 17 unit building The zoning is R-10 in a Frequent Transit Overlay District, so planning to utilize the bonus density.” Would be directly next door to the 12 townhome site at 1205 & 1207 Brookside. > [@The future of downtown's historic neighborhoods](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-mordecai-oakwood-and-boylan-heights/339/101): > > 2 to 12 is some nice density increase! ![image](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/f/0/f01636d44cf24b4ee320b155777bb81bb002973c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/197 "2023-03-03T19:00:00Z")
I’d been wondering about those sad abandoned houses on those monster lots. That’s so good. Brookside is already pretty fast and loud for SFHs so this kind of development makes a lot more sense. ---
**Author:** ![evan.j.bost](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/evan.j.bost/32/539_2.png) [@evan.j.bost](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/evan.j.bost)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/198 "2023-03-03T19:12:21Z")
Bonus density! Which means they are dedicating 20% of bonus units at 80% AMI I believe ---
**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/199 "2023-03-03T19:21:31Z")
That’ll be nice, decent sized lots, but still dense for that many apartments. https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=%213m2%212sen%214v0%216m8%211m7%211ss1JZzi-lffJViZlIcsP3aQ%212m2%211d35.7939057%212d-78.6247085%213f293.06%214f8.363%215f0.75 ---
**Author:** ![haus\_of\_chad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/haus_of_chad/32/11296_2.png) [@haus\_of\_chad](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/haus_of_chad)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/200 "2023-03-03T19:43:29Z")
It mentions Casa in @mike’s comment, I bet this will end up being a fully affordable complex with even extra units due to the FTOD bonus! ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/201 "2023-03-03T23:40:54Z")
A little Courtland/Mordecai loop roundup The big site near the train tracks is still a mudpit. ![20230303_173137](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/8/c/8cb76d7a9a0ef01fca1377a47cc27465a80cf806.jpeg) The big contemporary one across the street is looking MUCH better with the wood on the outside versus matte black. And it has nice big windows 😀 ![20230303_173223](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/b/6/b625b12cf2018166e12612ae385055bd53745d54.jpeg) These two at Poplar/Wake Forest are big boys. Hard to capture how much they tower over their neighbors. Pretty gawky looking now - maybe it’ll be better when they’re done. ![20230303_173903](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/e/f/ef4b0965026661dd8d9ade069c02415757f41067.jpeg) And the new house that was looking like one of those brutalist telephone switching towers… still looks like a telephone switching tower. What a weird concept. ![20230303_174039](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/1/8/18802ff82443d706672aa192984338c18741a8b9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Veritasvincit](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/e36b37/32.png) [@Veritasvincit](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Veritasvincit)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/202 "2023-03-06T21:28:19Z")
They need something here ASAP. This is probably one of the worst intersections in Raleigh [Previous page](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339.md?page=9) [Next page](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339.md?page=11)