# The future of downtown's historic neighborhoods **URL:** \ **Category:** The Pub\ **Created:** [June 28, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339 "2018-06-28T14:23:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@elevatoroperator](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/elevatoroperator)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/263 "2023-05-23T18:29:23Z")
[TBJ ran an article on these yesterday](https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2023/05/22/historic-oakwood-raleigh-new-apartments.html?cx_testId=40&cx_testVariant=cx_45&cx_artPos=5#cxrecs_s). Matt Tomasulo (former Guest House Raleigh and planning commissioner chair) is behind them! > The 3-story buildings will have a total of 34 studio and one-bedroom units. Casitas Aqui I will total 10,140 square feet and Casitas Aqui II will total 17,220 square feet, which equals around 600-800 square feet per unit. There will be 34 parking spaces. > […] > Tomasulo declined to give a rental range, but he did say that the apartments would rent at a lower rate than others in the area to make it more accessible. In addition, **8 to 10 percent of the units will be for those making 60 percent of the area’s median income.** He does not yet have financing. If he can pull this off, I think it really would be an amazing example of what development of this scale can accomplish. ---
**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/264 "2023-05-23T18:47:06Z")
Still mad Matt didn’t win his City Council campaign some years ago. Dude walks the walk (literally, if you are privy to one of his past projects that still remains on some telephone poles today 😉) ---
**Author:** ![sthomper](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/54ee81/32.png) [@sthomper](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/sthomper)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/265 "2023-05-25T00:57:53Z")
i wasnt quite sure where to look…whatever became of the clover lane issue? was maximum height achieved or was there a compromise decision? i may be wrong but this one seemed like a finger in the air, so to speak., (wind direction for clarity) thx. ---
**Author:** ![mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mmodlin/32/30890_2.png) [@mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mmodlin)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/266 "2023-05-25T12:41:26Z")
> **[20230404PLANDEVPublicHearingRezoningZ-43-22.pdf](https://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/files/CQD2MA4DC925/%24file/20230404PLANDEVPublicHearingRezoningZ-43-22.pdf)** There’s the application that was approved back on 4/4. ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/267 "2023-06-13T20:47:36Z")
Well, so much for Q1 2023. Any updates? ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/268 "2023-06-16T16:11:36Z")
![20230615_174119](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/4/7/47d5816c0d783ab0d39004220c7be276d3c1915d.jpeg) Signage and website are up. They’re now “The Edge at Brookside” > **[Home | The Edge at Brookside Townhomes](https://www.edge-raleigh.com/)** > > The eDGE at Brookside is a brand new housing development in Raleigh, NC which features modern townhomes starting in the $700's ---
**Author:** ![svp](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/svp/32/18832_2.png) [@svp](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/svp)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/269 "2023-06-17T13:50:45Z")
Where exactly is this located? ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/270 "2023-06-17T14:01:14Z")
Here you go: > [@The future of downtown's historic neighborhoods](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-mordecai-oakwood-and-boylan-heights/339/251): > > Decent density popping up along this block with the 10 townhomes almost next door too [Brookside-EXT-02] One thing I noticed walking by today - the new rendering has a somewhat better street interaction than the original blank white walls, so thank goodness for that. ---
**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/271 "2023-06-19T15:40:56Z")
On Brookside Dr. between Conn Elementary and Brookside Bodega. https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=%213m2%212sen%214v0%216m8%211m7%211s4bfS2_103snH1MHDnZ_ByA%212m2%211d35.7945719%212d-78.6245786%213f280.5%214f7.662%215f0.75 ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/272 "2023-06-19T16:05:20Z")
The house almost directly across the street at 601 Edmund is getting stripped down to its first floor and gut-renovated. This whole block is soon going to look much different. > **[601 Edmund St, Raleigh, NC 27604 - Raleigh Realty](https://raleighrealtyhomes.com/raleigh/601-edmund-2490200/)** > > Raleigh Realty has 4 photos of this 3 bed, 2 bath, 1,652 sqft. property that was listed on 01/13/23 for $500,000, and is located at 601 Edmund St, Raleigh, NC 27604 in the Albemarle Housing Co neighborhood. It must be easier for permitting to leave some of the original house - it’s not the first one I’ve seen where they seem to intentionally leave an odd wall or three of an unremarkable original house even as they rip everything out and add a lavish addition. ---
**Author:** ![bartonfj](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@bartonfj](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/bartonfj)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/273 "2023-06-19T16:06:08Z")
That street-facing facade is brutal ---
**Author:** ![Nickster](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/nickster/32/8765_2.png) [@Nickster](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Nickster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/274 "2023-06-19T16:13:30Z")
There is a house that I run by in Greystone that did the same thing. I kept asking myself, why didn’t they just take down the whole house??? They gutted it, took off the roof, and a big section of the rear exterior wall. It has been mostly built back with an added second floor and who knows what else. Just seems really bizarre to me. (Not that I am in favor of tearing down houses for McMansions.) But the lots for SFHs in Greystone are pretty huge. I’ve already seen one corner lot subdivided with a $1MM+ house built on the back half. I guess it just pushes up the value of my house, but still seems rather crazy. ---
**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/275 "2023-06-20T00:31:31Z")
Sort of an appropriate name since they aren’t facing the street. You see their edge. ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/276 "2023-07-07T21:57:21Z")
Serious movement at Mordecai Overlook! ![20230707_172718](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/b/d/bd0ff3277785e497a6aabd243aae6738783e9d20.jpeg) ![20230707_172827](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/5/d/5d441c2525260b3bdfc0c62e25dc2642c2104710.jpeg) Here’s a refresher on the project: > **[20220214PLANDEVBOA-0083-2021.pdf](https://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/files/CB9PMJ654A3F/%24file/20220214PLANDEVBOA-0083-2021.pdf)** And as a bonus, the telephone switchbox house has finished construction and transcended boring-ugly to become so-strange-it’s-interesting, which I find kind of charming. I hope an artist lives there. ![20230707_172057](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/f/5/f5b8b09adb320adf7f312936ed319e2a2a4a98cc.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/drew/32/23896_2.png) [@Drew](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Drew)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/277 "2023-07-24T17:09:05Z")
The brick home renovation on Brookside is going vertical. Interesting approach, it’ll still probably sell close to $1M ![IMG_5562](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/0/b/0b9cbd865c44a9f89fdd6548a77cc31ab0a68dab.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/278 "2023-07-24T17:36:43Z")
Ohhhh just you wait till they paint that brick a nice matte slate-grey. $2million easy, baby. ---
**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/279 "2023-07-24T17:42:56Z")
agreed. it’s gonna be north of 1M. ---
**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/280 "2023-07-24T17:43:58Z")
Hopefully they landscape the hell out of the Brookside side - that’s a busy road these days. ---
**Author:** ![mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mmodlin/32/30890_2.png) [@mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mmodlin)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/281 "2023-07-25T16:50:20Z")
Landscape it with something tall enough to hide all the different window elevations. ---
**Author:** ![mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mmodlin/32/30890_2.png) [@mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mmodlin)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/282 "2023-08-01T13:00:47Z")
Noticed a ‘for sale’ sign up at 1203 Brookside this morning, I wonder if there’s time/interest from these folks to add another lot to The Edge. [Previous page](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339.md?page=13) [Next page](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339.md?page=15)