# The future of downtown's historic neighborhoods

**URL:** <https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339>\
**Category:** The Pub\
**Created:** [June 28, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339 "2018-06-28T14:23:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raleighdeveloper](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@raleighdeveloper](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/raleighdeveloper)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 12:27am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/364 "2024-10-02T00:27:47Z")

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Ah yes, the Restoration on King Hotel with The Watch rooftop is another fantastic example. I remember the BAR meeting for that project!

 ![The Watch](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/9/3/93d658fe16fb1b790889c3cca9fa3e73a1021d13.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/365 "2024-10-02T00:29:26Z")

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Nailed it!

Characterssss

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/366 "2024-10-20T14:52:44Z")

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This is more about the present than the future, but we made our annual pilgrimage to the Halloween House in Oakwood.

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**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/367 "2024-10-20T14:56:00Z")

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I dearly love that house… and I have also nearly run over a pedestrian walking backwards without looking into Oakwood Blvd so they can take a picture a few times. People really shut their brains off around that place.

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**Author:** ![John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a3d4f5/32.png) [@John](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/John)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/368 "2024-10-20T16:09:18Z")

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I suppose that drivers also know that there’s peak pedestrian activity around this house every year and should take extra caution!

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**Author:** ![GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/guccilittlepig/32/25831_2.png) [@GucciLittlePig](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/GucciLittlePig)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/369 "2024-10-21T02:07:21Z")

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> [@oakcityyimby](#):
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> People really shut their brains off around that place.

It’s so you don’t attract the zombies…

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**Author:** ![thehappysmith](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/thehappysmith/32/8646_2.png) [@thehappysmith](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/thehappysmith)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/370 "2024-10-26T20:48:08Z")

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The site plan notes the intent to plant several Kentucky Coffeetrees around the site. One of the best and most underutilized native(ish) tree species. If I wore hats, I’d doff mine to the site planners.  
Compare to Passage Home’s new building spotted for South Park, with a bunch of List C invasives on it…

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**Author:** ![flip\_mcswiss](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f19dbf/32.png) [@flip\_mcswiss](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/flip_mcswiss)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/371 "2024-11-28T17:26:24Z")

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This is going to be contentious, development of 307, 311 and 325 E. Edenton St., three lots behind Gringo between Person St and Bloodworth. 311 and 325 are petition’s to demolish existing historic structures and 307 is a parking lot. End goal appears to be townhouses by Copper Builders.

The initial hearings are on December 13th:

> **[COA-0139-2024.pdf](https://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/files/DB9T8A76194E/$file/COA-0139-2024.pdf)**

> **[COA-0155-2024.pdf](https://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/files/DB9RPW6F0445/$file/COA-0155-2024.pdf)**

> **[COA-0156-2024.pdf](https://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/files/DB8THN77792A/$file/COA-0156-2024.pdf)**

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**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/372 "2024-11-28T17:41:53Z")

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I think this came up in the New Bern thread before… the parking lot getting built on is an obvious win, but I’m honestly not sure about tearing down the old houses. They’re nice.

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**Author:** ![Vic](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/v/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Vic](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Vic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/373 "2024-11-29T03:22:55Z")

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That is food served on a golden platter for Livable Raleigh right there.

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**Author:** ![mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mmodlin/32/30890_2.png) [@mmodlin](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mmodlin)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/374 "2024-12-01T14:44:15Z")

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The land for those two lots is valued at about ten times the value of the buildings, and neither has been owned by “not-a-developer” for about 30 years. Put me down for new townhouses.

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**Author:** ![Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/jake/32/34692_2.png) [@Jake](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Jake)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/375 "2024-12-02T14:49:56Z")

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yeah it’s a tough one but I’m always more excited to preserve historic towers/mixed-use buildings within the immediate downtown area, whereas a couple old/historic houses that it sounds like haven’t even been used as housing can certainly be sacrificed for guaranteed more-housing than what is currently there. Put me down for new townhouses, too.

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**Author:** ![daviddonovan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/daviddonovan/32/50_2.png) [@daviddonovan](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/daviddonovan)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/376 "2024-12-02T16:24:03Z")

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![4902270](https://d3tmycllq5yp1y.cloudfront.net/original/3X/9/c/9c94f2ff9e2a5274166ab4ad2c06bfd272a5f88f.jpeg)

This meme, but it’s actually my vision for Raleigh and I love it.

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**Author:** ![svp](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/svp/32/18832_2.png) [@svp](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/svp)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/377 "2024-12-02T22:19:23Z")

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It’s a race between new apartments and townhomes. Which developers will win the day.

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**Author:** ![CarnifeX](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@CarnifeX](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/CarnifeX)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/378 "2024-12-03T15:33:54Z")

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> [@svp](#):
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> Which developers will win

Hopefully the ones that provider ownership opportunities

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**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/379 "2025-01-09T15:25:34Z")

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Looks like movement at the Casitas Aqui lot on Brookside - there’s equipment, and a construction fence across both backyards protecting the creek area

> **[ASR-0029-2023.pdf](https://cityofraleigh0drupal.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/drupal-prod/COR15/ASR-0029-2023.pdf)**
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And bonus pic of the pretty-much-completed Edge townhouses

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**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/380 "2025-02-07T18:31:04Z")

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Demo has begun for Casitas Aqui! They wiped the brick house in a morning’s work.

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**Author:** ![mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/user_avatar/community.dtraleigh.com/mike/32/26_2.png) [@mike](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/mike)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/381 "2025-03-05T17:13:26Z")

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1426 Wake Forest Rd: 24 townhomes

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**Author:** ![oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@oakcityyimby](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/oakcityyimby)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/382 "2025-03-05T18:31:13Z")

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I was worried for a second that was the really pretty church next door.

On a street that busy I wish they’d go with a condo/apartment building, but this still a strong proposal.

Is the giant empty plot next to it a floodplain or is someone sitting on an incredibly valuable piece of land?

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**Author:** ![Spero](https://community.dtraleigh.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@Spero](https://community.dtraleigh.com/u/Spero)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-future-of-downtowns-historic-neighborhoods/339/383 "2025-03-05T19:24:52Z")

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Not a flood plain. No special inside knowledge but I’m assuming that the owners are waiting for a big offer.

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