Affordable Housing and Housing Affordability

This isn’t exactly about ADUs, but the Text Change Committee of the Planning Commission’s meeting tomorrow to talk about a draft ordinance to encourage developers to build denser around BRT stations while bringing in more businesses and affordable housing. If the latest draft were to become law, Transit Overlay Districts would:

  • allow parcels zoned for low-density residential uses to have townhouses and apartments.

  • allow structures to be expanded “by up to 25%” without filing a Special Use Permit.

  • prohibit separate building entrances for affordable housing units.

  • not have a minimum parking lot size.

  • require buildings to be at least two stories tall, up to “4 stories and 60 feet”.

    • To increase this by 50%, 20% of newly-built additional housing units need to be affordable for people making 50%AMI for the next thirty years. (This was 33%, but consultants said that may be too high of a target.)
    • Buildings for non-residential uses get a 30% raise in height limits, just because.
  • require a building to have “active uses” (i.e. buildings where people can do things) between a parking deck and the street. In other words, mini-parking decks have to be “hidden” from the front of the building.

  • not ask developers to do traffic circulation studies as a part of approving a development plan to build things.

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I guess that I was thinking of how to increase housing density in a model that wouldn’t require one to have a yard large enough for an ADU, or cause NIMBYs to object because the ADU was too close to their backyards, etc. While I know that my mother wouldn’t endure a renovation of her house to make this happen, the reality is that she could easily live in the space afforded by the 4 rooms in just the downstairs of her house.

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I haven’t seen this pop up in any other threads, but I felt this was a good place to drop it. Apparently Wake Tech is donating some amount of land with the intention of building affordable housing including 1, 2, and 3 bedroom apartments, with “30 percent of them set aside for Wake Tech students who meet certain criteria.” Proposals are expected by end of year.

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Great news! It appears this is the parcel in question:

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An upcoming session.

From the summary page:
Every county in North Carolina is facing the challenge of having enough affordable housing for its citizens. Downtowns can play a vital role in meeting that challenge. Prioritizing the development of upper floor housing and reinvesting in existing close-in residential units can provide affordable housing and create new opportunities for downtown buildings and business owners. This session will address the challenges and tools for providing affordable housing and propose that downtown advocates should also become affordable housing advocates.

https://web.cvent.com/event/c537dee9-1e0b-433e-89bd-5b4620ddb2a0/summary

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Looks like the city is moving forward building one of the affordable houses in Olde East. By my count there are 5 lots remaining.

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We walked by that last night and thought it would become one of those tall 3 story homes placed on a small lot, similar to the house 2 lots to the right of this picture.

But you said the city owns this and it will be an affordable home? Curious to see what the city builds.

I think there are 9-10 lots left as part of the Martin Haywood project that was previously put on pause, I imagine they’ll look similar to other SF homes completed in the first phase. image There’s a lot of homes east of DTR interspersed throughout the different neighborhoods that have been similarly developed by the city over the past decade or two. Some were also acquired for the city’s rental portfolio (for low AMI renters) like some of those shotgun homes next to the Exploris school on Swain.

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I ran by the corner of Fisher and Oakwood yesterday as they were tearing down the remaining houses (highighted yellow) owned by College Park Collaborative, LLC. I believe everything in red is just a big field now. I’m wondering if this is signaling them finally making moves on this property

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They’ve started grading the land here. I did some digging and found this. It looks like they’re selling a portion of this land to a developer for 58 townhomes. No idea if they’ll be market rate but I assume so since DHIC would probably just develop it themselves if they could.

It also looks like they’re holding back a piece of this land for one building that will include 68 low-income apartments for seniors.

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Interesting news from Durham:

The city looked into the activists’ recommendations and found several points that could be improved such as anonymous reporting of safety violations or explicit regulations on mold in public housing. Many items on their wish list, however, seem to be things Durham has no control over since they’re overpowered by state law.

I wonder if an exercise like this could fall into Raleigh’s hands, as well, soon? It looks like MAB could benefit from throwing housing activists a bone, after all.

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I attended an event yesterday where someone from Wake County Housing Justice coalition spoke, and they made a lot of questionable claims. It was a lot of fear-mongering about how the city wants to sell the land that Heritage Park sits on to make a profit.

I tried to have a dialogue afterwards to get more clarity on his specific grievances, and he seemed to backtrack slightly when I told him that from what I understood, the city aims to partner with a private developer for a mixed income community, which would build back the current affordable units and add more. But he still dug into a few concerns, and I’m curious to hear your thoughts about:

  1. displacement of current residents. He stated that vouchers are not a good solution, because most places accepting them have an insanely long waiting list. So current residents would be on their own to find new housing they can afford, with no guarantee they could actually do so.

  2. the city refuses to guarantee right of return for existing residents

  3. only a small number of new units would be for 30% AMI, so current residents likely would not be able to afford many of the new affordable units.

Thanks for posting the above information, which explicitly contradicts at least a couple of his claims. Do you have updates on any of this, or know where I can find them? It seems these were policy recommendations by staff, but I’m trying to understand if they were actually approved.

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Good info, honestly I have always wondered where the people in this situation end up moving to, is it better or worse where they move to? Sometimes these moves can be positive and negative, It would be great to hear first hand and not through the grievance machine real experiences. Has anyone on the forum experienced this recently?

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I can’t say I’m surprised by how the Housing Justice Coalition isn’t being precise with their words or research, especially when they’re calling this project a “genocide” on Twitter. I’m glad you found my stab at fact-checking helpful!

Before people start throwing verbal Molotovs, let’s remind ourselves that city officials, traditional YIMBYs, and activists in the HJC and elsewhere agree on the core idea behind this project: using the Heritage Park property to help more people live in DTR is a good investment for the City. The disagreements come from the "why"s and “hows” of doing so, but our interests are aligned even if it doesn’t always sound that way.

As for recent updates... (click me!)

I couldn’t find anything directly about the Heritage Park project or Housing Authority policy changes from the 10 minutes I searched on Google and the city’s meeting agendas. My understanding is that city staffers would:

  1. Formally write policy recommendations
  2. Add them to City Council meeting agendas as an “action item”
  3. Review the proposed policy in one or more committees (optional but common)
  4. Vote on it to make it a law. I couldn’t even find a formal draft, so

The recording of City Council’s discussion for the memo you’re talking about is on YouTube now, though. You can see how, for example, David Cox is asking the more careful practical questions while many Patrick Buffkin wanted to push for denser, taller public houses. …but I’m not sure if you care for that sort of legislative drama.

There is a sorta-related update, though: the Western Blvd. BRT corridor study is asking for several changes to the city’s street plan, one of which is to include Heritage Park into the city’s grid layout. You could say this implies the City’s interested in making Heritage Park somehow better-integrated with its future urban neighbors. That shouldn’t really be a surprise, though, since the whole point of this controversy is to modernize and expand Heritage Park.

So, in order of the concerns you listed:

I’m personally sympathetic to how difficult it must be to move houses and resettle when you’re poor. After all, a majority of Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck and, according to this survey, maintain less than $500 in savings. I can’t imagine it’s easy when you’re in that situation and your own hometown is about to tell you to get lost. And when that’s happening and it’s the city that wants to renovate its facilities for its own purposes, I think it makes sense for the city to “make up for it”.

I can think of a couple of approaches, but they all have their downsides too... (click me!)
  • The city directly gives public housing residents a grant to use for moving and relocation expenses. I think this is what activists like to push for. I’d be curious about the cost of doing this, but I’m not sure if the city’s allowed to do this (see next question) or

  • The city moves all displaced residents to existing vacant units in other city-owned properties (as I mentioned in the post you’re referring to). This is obviously hard, though, since the city is also short on housing units.

  • Heritage Park gets developed phase-by-phase. The developer could start by building new buildings on unused land first, move impacted residents into the new building for its next phase, etc. etc. …though planning for this sort of multi-phase project could get unwieldy and expensive very quickly.

  • The city dedicates staff to help with applications for moving grants. Lots of resources for relocation assistance exists, but distressed residents might not know about them or have the means to apply for the help they need. The city could help lighten the workload for its resident-tenants, though it seems like this could take quite a bit of FTEs as well:

    • HUD: they do more than just Section 8 vouchers!
    • move.org
    • moving.com: this page has lots of cost-saving tips and resources
    • 211: it’s like 911, but non-emergency referrals to experts and local resources
    • Passage Home, a local nonprofit dedicated to homelessness prevention
    • Other resources outlined by this page on RocketMortgage’s website

Is that true? If so, why?

I’m not a lawyer, so I don’t know if the State of North Carolina pre-empts (overrules) cities on tenants’ rights issues like that. That seemed like a common obstacle for the “renter’s bill of rights” attempt in Durham (see post above), though, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that happens here, too.

What do the current residents of Heritage Park make with respect to AMI? I’d be curious if the speaker actually has the data to back up his claim.

For reference, the US Dept. of Housing and Urban Development defines AMIs by region, not by city boundaries or census tracts. Extrapolating from the city’s own webpage on public housing, a household of three making up to $25,850 would qualify. That’s like a single parent with 2 kids making $10.77/hr.

I’m curious as well! …though when you said “this situation”, did you mean development-based displacement in general, or specifically for people in lower-income public housing? If you meant the latter, I’m not sure if we have many users on here who’d identify with that… :slightly_frowning_face:

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I am interested in all situations. I grew up in a housing project in providence RI. We moved out when I was 14. We moved from a hellish existence into a 3 floor tenement and it changed our outlook, changed our thinking, our self respect and gave us a better reason to strive for success. It made all the difference moving from that environment. My dad and mom worked two low paying jobs each to get us out of that place, I know it’s different than what you are talking about but I am just saying that sometimes a move is the best thing that can happen.

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As for the ability to return, I believe that has to do with income certification. They can’t tell a household that they’re allowed to come back to low-income housing if their income is no longer low after the project is completed (or right now for that matter). The rest of the questions I can try to get more info on but this is mainly an Raleigh Housing Authority project (they are a Public Housing Authority (PHA)).

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The republicans neutered a city’s ability to ‘drop the hammer’ on really bad landlords. Bhola Gupta is probably the worst landlord in the City of Raleigh and the City’s authority over him is a joke…all because of the GOP’s BS legislation when they gained control in 2010. This guy was going to have his ability to rent his shithole houses to anyone shut down by the City when the legislature implemented the restrictions on the municipalities authority.

As a landlord myself, there do need to be minimum housing restrictions on slumlords like Gupta. He hurts his tenants, the adjacent property owners, and the City itself.

You’d think that a guy who immigrated from another country and benefited from what America & Raleigh has to offer would be a bit more respectful & appreciative to the City that helped him…

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All of these are legitimate concerns that need to be addressed. All can be solved by just building a f*ckload of units there. Anything less than 1000 is a travesty. 2000 is more like it.

Build a 20 story building in some of the complex’s existing open space as phase one, and just move everybody into it before you tear anything down.

If you solve problem 1 as above, problem 2 goes away

You can finance more, and more deeply, affordable units in a mixed income complex, by BUILDING MORE UNITS.

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Thanks so much for taking the time to dig into this. It’s going to take some time to explore the links and absorb all of it.

What do the current residents of Heritage Park make with respect to AMI? I’d be curious if the speaker actually has the data to back up his claim.

Aren’t they 30% AMI units? He was suggesting that new “affordable” units in Raleigh are seldom ever affordable to lower-than-middle income residents, and that Raleigh has a pattern of replacing 30% units with mostly 60 or 80% units. (The information you’ve posted here explicitly contradicts the claim that this would happen at Heritage Park, obviously).

Your image of the BRT corridor study made me gasp. At one point during the speaker’s talk, he said something about the city’s new BRT proposal showing a big red “x” on the Heritage Park site (the implication being, I’m assuming, that the city plans to eliminate Heritage Park.) I have no idea what he was referring to, but now I’m wondering if it was a diagram like this of street grid improvements… lmao.

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Totally – agreed! But I’m asking about the city’s current plan, and how it addresses or doesn’t address these issues. Would love if a 20 story building was the actual plan, of course.

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