I’ll be happy when we get awarded the funding. The Trump administration has been intentionally dragging its feet when it comes to giving out funding for transit projects
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lol at today’s Transportation Authority meeting.
BRT New Bern is gentrification! Stop this now!
It very crappy we need to swipe out the transit committee
There’s some reasonable forces.
The reason BRT New Bern was selected because it’s the only one that qualifies for federal grant money period. Pathetic ridership on all other routes.
Yea I starting to think all Raleigh transit needs a massive overhaul. Except for GoRaleigh which despite the BRT crap going on it working to make it happening delivering on construction routes whatever. The transit council is “oh we gotta help black people”. Okay this is the reason we lost light rail in Wake County and why we’re about to loose commuter rail fear of gentrification and ridership and blaming the state legislature. Charlotte got denied funding too for it light rail expansions but did they whine no they went to the feds and pushed hard. But no here in Raleigh we gotta be qaint about it and suck up to the state (like with the Durham-Orange Light Rail they had a shot on that) it’s like they want to be bullied and enslaved by the state. Put the damn BRT let’s getting talking about commuter and light rail and let’s go no wonder why companies aren’t coming to Raleigh. And the black women on the transit council is like Black People can’t be mobilized. The city said they would put Affordable Housing on all 4 BRT lines. Okay we got rid of the legislative NIMBYs time to get rid of the transit Nimbys don’t let them win.
Well it may raise property values and increase the push-out of people that have lived off New Bern for decades, etc. I mean, it’s pretty evident already with large swaths of land mowed down driving around College Park today. Developers are eating that place UP.
New Bern Avenue is a dump. Tear it all down and move on. Why would poor people even want to patron those dump stores.
Redevelopment, gentrification can’t come fast enough…
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Yeah we know you’ve…repeated that statement several times on this website.
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Route 15 incredibly late again but at least its running twice an hour except my 7:13 bus has yet to arrive at 7:23 only 20 minutes until the 7:42 at least. Come on BRT.
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Route 1, the Capital Boulevard route has the highest ridership of the entire agency. Route 15, that services New Bern has 2nd highest - just FYI. Results from the end of last FY:
Route 1: 704,781 annual ridership (Northern BRT alignment)
Route 15: 600,317 annual ridership (Eastern, New Bern BRT alignment)
Route 7: 422,963 annual riders (Southern BRT alignment) - also serves portions of Route 21, which is another ~150k in ridership.
Western Blvd alignment is GoTriangle, so not sure on those stats, but all the corridors perform well that have been selected from GoRaleigh.
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So did the federal agency rate all lines or only New Bern? If only New Bern then who’s at ‘fault’? GoRaleigh or the federal agency that does this rating thing? Or does the rating system take account more than just a single line or does it take other factors into consideration?
Not asking you, just we’ve been waiting 30 years or so for a real public transportation system only to be derailed again would just be typical.
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Quite honestly that ridership enough more than enough for a light rail, and the lady saying ridership will go down geez give me a break
The plan since the Wake Transit Plan referendum was passed was to push through the New Bern route, first, since it’s the lowest-hanging fruit; it’s the easiest one to plan for, the cheapest to build etc. etc. This was clear since at least late 2018 (though a ten-second Google search only turned up a mention about this as far back as mid-last year), but this strategy was recommended as early as 2016.
No one is “at fault”, since it’s a part of GoRaleigh’s strategy. The other three lines basically depend on the New Bern alignment’s success paving the way for them, since they’re being planned to launch in 2025 (compared to '23 for New Bern).
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Each line is being submitted to FTA individually. New Bern went first because it’s the easiest to design and build…doesn’t require new road like the Wilmington St. extension on the South corridor or potential Western Blvd. extension on the west corridor, not to mention the clusterf*** that is Capital Blvd.
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Planning for the southern line to Garner will kick off shortly, with two public meetings scheduled for next week:
Thursday, Feb. 20, 4 p.m. – 7 p.m. at the Garner Senior Center, located at 205 E. Garner Road, in Garner.
Monday, Feb. 24, 4 p.m. – 7 p.m. at Victory Church, located at 2825 S. Wilmington Street, in Raleigh.
City staff will be available to discuss options, answer questions and receive input. Free parking, a children’s activity table and light refreshments will be available. A formal presentation will begin promptly at 5:30 p.m. at both meetings.
Full article here: https://raleighnc.gov/news/2020-02-14-learn-about-bus-rapid-transit-downtown-raleigh-garner
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Also, in related news, Chapel Hill’s proposed N-S BRT line was given a “medium” rating by the Federal Transit Administration:
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I wonder why the Capital Blvd corridor is the last one to get going when it is the highest ridership bus route and in my personal, highly anecdotal experience, maybe suffers the most from congestion?
Another thing is, the Capital Blvd route drawn up in the transit plans seems to be a tiny stub that ends at Wake Forest/Atlantic?
I wonder if these items are related? Maybe they want to extend it further up Capital but they are putting it off until it is time to to start to implementing the things from the various Capital Blvd corridor studies that are completed and underway?
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Maybe they are waiting on this… Capital Blvd upgrade
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I actually asked about the stub thing at one of the initial BRT meetings. Short version is that, when they first started mapping the original four routes, they weren’t sure whether the northbound line was going to extend to Midtown, TTC, or both. Additionally, if it does extend to Midtown, which road will it take? The Midtown/St. Albans Area Plan that was released this month leaves several options on the table (see p51 for a graphic).
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This makes sense. Out of all the future BRT service branches, the Capital Blvd. one is probably the hardest one to figure out because there’s so many businesses, roads etc. already there. It’d be hard to convince the FTA (assuming we’re going for federal help again) that it’s worth the investment if it looks like it’ll ruin plans for the area that are already in place.
Unpopular opinion for the non-transit-nerds on this site, probably: now that I’m looking through this new plan, it’s making me feel as if we should wait to figure out what a Capital Blvd./Midtown BRT route looks like before we start complaining about why it hasn’t been built already.
Because first things first: which of the thick lines are the best way to go for a North Hills BRT connection?
Yeah, I don’t know either. I really hope the Capital Blvd. study that @TedF mentioned gets approved ASAP so that this sort of study is even possible…
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