Definitely a big “better than an open field.” And hey, that’s quite a lot of people, which is nice.
Kind of hard to tell - can the neighborhood be accessed through that Knowles Street spur? It’d be a shame to essentially wall the development off from the local area.
This looks like the classic apartment scenario - Hertford Village folks likely won’t want “all those apartment cars cutting through the neighborhood” and the apartments probably won’t connect and offer anything meaningful to the neighborhood other than ‘activating’ a field…
More housings for more folks just outside the expanding core is about the best thing you can say here. …Ever slowly barely changing…
This is closer to Garner than DT Raleigh. I can’t be too mad about its suburban form because it’s in the suburbs.
which road is this on? And ‘Blah’. What an awful design
Hammond Center Drive.
As a hertford village resident I am glad there is no neighborhood connection. When this plan was proposed many residents were rightly concerned of the buffer zone between houses and development. As there are no sidewalks in the neighborhood, pedestrians walk on the street. Add 500 cars cutting through and the result would be a hazardous pedestrian environment.
Hm, understandable, though I hate the idea of the southern flank of downtown turning into a series of isolated drive-in drive-out zones versus cohesive multi-use neighborhoods.
The lack of sidewalks is a real shame, but I guess there’s no real shops or interesting places you can walk to around there, anyway.
For where this is located (the address is 100 Knowles St., if folks want to go look up the location), this is absolutely a win. That’s a lot of apartments very close to a BRT line. This is absolutely good news. Cool!
Not according to the site plan, no.
Yeah, hopefully HV is one of only a few isolated nodes. Not really anywhere to walk currently but maybe soon 
Unfortunately it doesn’t look like that spur is actually public right of way.
Anyone have ideas for this year’s version of what we did for apartment madness last year?
Unfortunately, without a street or bike/ped connection to the west, this project is nearly a 1 mile walk to the nearest station, and the route has a sidewalk gap along Hammond and no bike facilities. Even though this project adds density seemingly close to the BRT line, unless an access point to S Wilmington St is added, I can’t imagine many residents will be riding BRT.
Seems like that would be very doable!
Murals/public art?
Tall buildings?
Coffee shops?
Oh! I love the murals/public art idea! Especially since there are quite a few new ones that have cropped up recently.
Mixed-use buildings? I’d love to focus on the things we believe not only make our city better, but the ways in which we build smarter. Best use of land.
Maybe that doesn’t make sense. It does for me but…
In reference to this…
https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-raleigh-wire-service/748/1591
All of these options look awesome… but man oh man that’s a lot of right-of-way.
For comparison:
New Bern is about 130’ from Poole Rd to Raleigh Blvd, and then about 170’ from Raleigh Blvd to the Beltline, and then about 140’ OTB.
Western Boulevard is somewhat ambiguous; because of all the public land (Universities, Dix, Pullen, Morehead School, etc) the right-of-way lines aren’t always clear. There’s plenty of space near NC State, between Gorman and Avent Ferry, where it’s about 200’ wide if you include everything from Faucette to the bike path on the eastbound side. Most everywhere else, like from Gorman to Jones Franklin, is about 125’, which is barely wide enough for the one lane busway cross section here. Ouch.
Yeah, on the one hand they’re giving lots of density with the TOD overlay zoning… but on the other hand, these could end up taking a big chunk out of the parcels on either side.
Then again, most of these routes were subject to super wide Thoroughfare setbacks (50’ IIRC) for many years. The crossing distances and times are huge, though I guess the multiple planting strips offer refuges. This is likely a result of NIMBYs whining about losing the goofy little median trees.
The planting strips between the traffic lanes and bus lanes is less for NIMBY appeasement and more to leave space for platforms on the busway, and left turn lanes. I mean it technically doesn’t have to be there - you could taper down in the spaces between the stops, but to me the medians are a good thing, given how wide the ROWs are.