Commuter Rail - Garner to West Durham

Continuing on equipment.

Stadler FLIRT (Fast Light Intercity and Regional Train; German: Flinker Leichter Intercity- und Regional-Triebzug) is a passenger multiple unit trainset made by Stadler Rail of Switzerland. The baseline design of FLIRT is an electric multiple unit articulated trainset that can come in units of two to twelve cars with two to six motorized axles. The maximum speed is 200 km/h (120 mph). Standard floor height is 57 cm (22.4 in), but 78 cm (30.7 in) high floors are also available for platform heights of 76 cm (29.9 in).

The FLIRT train was originally developed for the Swiss Federal Railways and was first delivered in 2004. The trains quickly became a success and were ordered by operators in Algeria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Serbia, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom, the United States, and, most recently (2018), Canada. As of 18 April 2018, more than 1,500 units have been sold.

Other than electric (EMU), the FLIRT is produced in Diesel-Electric version (DEMU), and recently also as electro-diesel (bi-mode/BMU), first ordered by the Aosta Valley region in Italy (BTR.813), and then by Greater Anglia (British Rail Class 755), Norske Tog, and Wales & Borders (“tri-mode” version: diesel/overhead electric/battery).

Diesel, Bi-mode electro-diesel, hybrid diesel-battery, or battery versions are essentially baseline design with an additional one-third length non-passenger car inserted in the trainset - called a PowerPack car - which contains the electricity generating and storage components, such as diesel engines and batteries, that provide electricity to the train to run “off-wire”. It has a gangway through the center to allow passengers to pass between the two parts of the train.

On June 9, 2015, Trinity Metro signed a contract for the supply of eight 4-car articulated FLIRT3 diesel-electric multiple units for the TEXRail commuter line, which opened in January 2019. The contract was signed at a ceremony held at Fort Worth Central Station. The contract is valued at $107 million, and includes the supply of components for 10 years. The contract also includes an option for an additional 24 DMUs.

This was Stadler’s first order for its FLIRT family in the US (previous orders have been for the GTW), and the first to include federal funding and thus be subject to the Buy America Act. As such, one element of the contract is that the final assembly of the trains will take place in the US, and several assembly sites such as in Lewisville were considered for the facility. Stadler eventually leased space from the Utah Transit Authority in their former Union Pacific shops in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Public unveiling events for the completed American built FLIRT units occurred in both Atlanta, Georgia on October 9, 2017; and Salt Lake City on the Salt Lake, Garfield and Western Railway on October 13, 2017 as Stadler broke ground for their permanent Salt Lake facility.

Three 2-car FLIRT sets are being built for Arrow service in Redlands, California, set to begin operations in 2022. The $31.4 million contract includes the vehicles themselves, spare parts, and training for servicing and operation.

In November 2019, the Southern California Regional Rail Authority ordered an additional FLIRT powered via hydrogen fuel cell, the first such train in the United States.

Eight 4-car sets are to enter service with Dallas Area Rapid Transit on the Silver Line when it opens in 2022.

TEXRail FLIRT

When I first saw the FLIRT, all I saw was ‘lightweight’ and figured that they wouldn’t pass FRA muster. But, with the waiver applications which have been filed for these units, I was hopeful…

And, with the Redlands Arrow service looking to go hydrogen, my attention was piqued again…

So, @orulz, with these waivers in place, you may not get a sexy FLIRT with an overhead catenary. But, there could be a hydrogen future.

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Sure would be nice to run electric trains. I know there are infrastructure hurdles that do not make it likely.

Is there any technology that can power at stations or certain sections of track that can recharge batteries to run the train in sections where running electric power is not feasible?

Well you answered my question. This seems to be the way to go.

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Seems I read about a light rail system that was using batteries with recharge at each end of line. Sorry do not recall much about it such as where. Would seem would be easy to do. Rail lines are relativity flat and steel on steel has low rolling resistance. Using re-gen breaking system would recharge coming to stations as well. I have seen claims that can recover up to 80% of energy used to get up to speed to stop. A “super charger” system could top off batteries in maybe 10 min or so at each end with full charge over night.

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Here’s what GoTriangle is comparing itself with:

(All numbers from GoTriangle & Wikipedia)

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Caltrain is spending $1.9 billion for electrification of their corridor. Admittedly their corridor already exists, but their $1.9 billion is for a longer corridor, includes LOTS of bilevel trains, quite a few things like passing tracks and grade separations, and much more frequent service, and that in a denser corridor with higher construction costs.

Meanwhile GoTriangle is projecting to spend up to $3.2 billion on our corridor. If we spend that much and don’t get an electrified corridor I would say forget it, don’t even try.

Our power here in the triangle is mostly nuclear. Carbon free.

I don’t get it. Why is electrification such an impossibility, when it is such an utterly routine thing in other countries - even including lines up to the remotest northern reaches of Sweden or the furthest eastern extent of the trans-siberian, or the least significant branch line in India?

When it comes to adopting best practices from overseas, this is where it all starts. An engineer from Japan or Switzerland would scoff at the idea of a railway running 70 trains a day (passenger + freight) with diesel power.

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I found an interesting blog post comparing the cost of rail electrification; if the writer’s right, it just sounds like a problem of an uncompetitive market jacking up prices while providing shitty products.

Canada’s apparently on a similar scale as well.

HOWEVER, Europe (and Israel, which smartly copied European best practices rather than American ones) got away with it for much cheaper.

How much? Something like $1 to $4 million per km.

These numbers are definitely lower than what that writer found in the US/Canada. But unlike New York’s Second Av. Subway, they’re not orders of magnitude different… which makes it sound less like a technology problem, but more like a case of “holy shit they don’t know what they’re doing”.

Side note: please cross-check what I wrote and feel free to try to prove me wrong. …but the only other articles I quickly found just kept blaming Congress without crunching numbers.

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Longish answer (mostly cribbed from Wikipedia)

Railroad electrification in the United States began at the turn of the 20th century and comprised many different systems in many different geographical areas, few of which were connected. Despite this situation, these systems shared a small number of common reasons for electrification.

Impetus for electrification

The common reasons for electrification in the United States include:

Laws banning steam locomotives (smoke abatement)

A number of municipalities passed laws in the early part of the 20th century forbidding steam locomotives from operating within city limits, after some bad accidents caused by the awful conditions of visibility in smoke and steam-filled tunnels and cuttings. The most prominent of these laws was for New York City in 1903 (effective 1908).

An extensive study was also undertaken in Chicago of the problems of smoke and the feasibility of electrification as a solution.

Long tunnels

Long, deep tunnels provide poor ventilation for steam locomotives, to the point where crews had to wear oxygen masks to avoid asphyxiation. The ventilation problem also limited the frequency of trains through these tunnels. The Cascade Tunnel is a good example. Also see the proposed North–South Rail Link.

Mountains

The electric locomotive has many advantages in mountainous terrain, including better adhesion, greater power at low speeds, no requirements for fueling or watering, and regenerative braking. The planned California High-Speed Rail system, for example requires electrification to achieve acceptable speeds through the Tehachapi Mountains.

Traffic density

Extremely high-traffic lines can readily recoup the high capital investment of electrification by the savings accrued during operation. The savings typically result from improved utilization of trains, and lower maintenance costs.

Short-distance commuter operations

Suburban commuter trains are an ideal subject for electrification since electric multiple units possess rapid acceleration, fast braking (sometimes regenerative braking) and the ability to change direction without running a locomotive around. It also reduces diesel locomotive emissions in relatively high-density areas.

Freight operations

Heavy freight trains are ideally suited to electric traction due to the greater pulling power of an electric locomotive.

Overview of electrification in the U.S.

Electrification in the US reached its maximum of 3,100 miles (5,000 km) in the late 1930s.

By 1973 it was down to 1,778 route miles (2,861 km) (Class I railroads) with the top 3 being: Penn Central 829 miles (1,334 km), Milwaukee Road 658 miles (1,059 km), Long Island Rail Road 121 miles (195 km).

In 2013 the only electrified lines hauling freight by electricity were three short line coal haulers (mine to power plant) and one switching railroad in Iowa.[9] The total electrified route length of these four railroads is 122 miles (196 km). While some freight trains run on parts of the electrified Northeast Corridor and on part of the adjacent Keystone Corridor, these freight trains use diesel locomotives for traction. The total electrified route length of these two corridors is 559 miles (900 km).

Advantages

  • No exposure to passengers to exhaust from the locomotive

  • Lower cost of building, running and maintaining locomotives and multiple units

  • Higher power-to-weight ratio (no onboard fuel tanks), resulting in

  • Fewer locomotives

  • Faster acceleration

  • Higher practical limit of power

  • Higher limit of speed

  • Less noise pollution (quieter operation)

  • Faster acceleration clears lines more quickly to run more trains on the track in urban rail uses

  • Reduced power loss at higher altitudes (for power loss see Diesel engine)

  • Independence of running costs from fluctuating fuel prices

  • Service to underground stations where diesel trains cannot operate for safety reasons

  • Reduced environmental pollution, especially in highly populated urban areas, even if electricity is produced by fossil fuels

  • Easily accommodates kinetic energy brake reclaim using supercapacitors

  • More comfortable ride on multiple units as trains have no underfloor diesel engines

  • Somewhat higher energy efficiency in part due to regenerative braking and less power lost when “idling”

  • More flexible primary energy source: can use coal, nuclear, hydro or wind as the primary energy source instead of oil

Disadvantages

  • Adding electric catenary to older structures may be an expensive cost of electrification projects

  • Most overhead electrifications do not allow sufficient clearance for a double-stack car. Each container may be 9 ft 6 in (2,896 mm) tall and the bottom of the well is 1 ft 2 in (356 mm) above rail, making the overall height 20 ft 2 in (6,147 mm) including the well car.

  • Electrification cost: electrification requires an entire new infrastructure to be built around the existing tracks at a significant cost. Costs are especially high when tunnels, bridges and other obstructions have to be altered for clearance. Another aspect that can raise the cost of electrification are the alterations or upgrades to railway signaling needed for new traffic characteristics, and to protect signaling circuitry and track circuits from interference by traction current. Electrification may require line closures while the new equipment is being installed.

  • Appearance: the overhead line structures and cabling can have a significant landscape impact compared with a non-electrified or third rail electrified line that has only occasional signaling equipment above ground level.

  • Fragility and vulnerability: overhead electrification systems can suffer severe disruption due to minor mechanical faults or the effects of high winds causing the pantograph of a moving train to become entangled with the catenary, ripping the wires from their supports. The damage is often not limited to the supply to one track, but extends to those for adjacent tracks as well, causing the entire route to be blocked for a considerable time. Third-rail systems can suffer disruption in cold weather due to ice forming on the conductor rail.

  • Theft: the high scrap value of copper and the unguarded, remote installations make overhead cables an attractive target for scrap metal thieves. Attempts at theft of live 25 kV cables may end in the thief’s death from electrocution. In the UK, cable theft is claimed to be one of the biggest sources of delay and disruption to train services — though this normally relates to signaling cable, which is equally problematic for diesel lines.

  • Birds may perch on parts with different charges, and animals may also touch the electrification system. Animals fallen to the ground are fetched by foxes or other predators [27], bringing risk of collision with trains.

  • In most of the world’s railway networks, the height clearance of overhead electrical lines is not sufficient for a double-stack container car or other unusually tall loads. It is extremely costly to upgrade electrified lines to the correct clearances (21ft 8 in or 6,630mm) to take double stacked container trains.

World electrification

In 2006, 240,000 km (150,000 mi) (25% by length) of the world rail network was electrified and 50% of all rail transport was carried by electric traction.

In 2012 for electrified kilometers, China surpassed Russia making it first place in the world with over 48,000 km (30,000 mi) electrified.[28] Trailing behind China were Russia 43,300 km (26,900 mi), India 35,488 km (22,051 mi), Germany 21,000 km (13,000 mi), Japan 17,000 km (11,000 mi), and France 15,200 km (9,400 mi).

Summary

Why won’t GoTriangle electrify despite overwhelming environmental evidence of its benefit?

  • Unlike Denver, there is no political will to make it happen.

  • There is a traditional stakeholder – namely the North Carolina Rail Road and its tenant, Norfolk Southern, who see no benefit in electrification.

  • Semi-frequent hurricanes and ice storms might prove to be an environmental hindrance to stringing up overhead catenary lines which would be prone to damage.

  • And, GoTriangle is going to take the most cautious approach this time around to try and get things right. They’ve been burned twice before, and have taken a very public drubbing for their prior failures. If their efforts fail, then it will be another generation before this question comes up again.

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Has this been posted?
Looks like it came out just yesterday 1/3/2020

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Yup. I did last night. Stirred up all this talk about DMU’s and electrification.

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This was just over at the Raleigh-Amtrak Facebook page:

Under this proposal, RGH-CYN would see weekdays 40 commuter trains, 2 Carolinian, 8 Piedmont (after Charlotte Gateway opens) and 2 Silver Star trains.

If service hours 5:30 am to 10:30 pm that means an AVERAGE of 3 trains an hour in and out of CYN and RGH.

Definitely a third track Boylan to Fetner and at least two tracks the entire remainder from Auburn to West Durham. Likely a third track in some other segments. Obviously a re-design and station track/second platform at CYN.

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Wow, that’s pretty crazy to think about.

The Cary train station (CYN) would likely be moved to the multimodal transit center, due to the existing platforms interference with the main two N-S roads into Downtown Cary (Harrison Ave and Academy St). The town would rather move the station and platforms than build bridges at Harrison Ave and/or Academy St. My guess is shifted slightly East towards Durham St.

https://www.townofcary.org/projects-initiatives/project-updates/facilities-projects/downtown-cary-multi-modal-transit-facility

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@roguejam - Makes sense to move CYN. It’s going to be a real bitch when the movement to seal the NCRR corridor moves through Cary. Morrisville, however, is almost done getting their act together in that regard with only 1-2 crossings left to grade separate.

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@roguejam Yup, there’s some pretty undeveloped land over there at Durham and Cedar Streets where Fetner Junction is located. One can easily conceive of a house track on either side of the mains for each road to allow high-level boarding without encroaching on the freight rights-of-way down the middle. Then, straddle a head house with parking and BRT functions along a Durham Street grade separation.

But, again, Cary’s going to have to deal with the fact that a rail superhighway is coming right through the center of town. With the divergence of the S-Line towards Apex and Hamlet, and the H-Line going to Durham, there’s not going to be the ability to trench all of that like High Point. So, Harrison and Academy are going to have to dive under the line or go over. Moving the CYN station is going to make going under a little easier.

An earlier study only mentioned the crossings between Raleigh and Cary, stopping at Maynard Road. And, there have been some closures of other crossings west of Cary. TIGER grant requests have been discussed to address to downtown core, but I don’t know where that stands.

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I looked the place I think you’re talking about on Cary’s OpenGIS portal. This may be doable (if you make most of the property go along Cedar St. rather than Durham Rd.), since most of the parcels you’re talking about seems to be owned by one person rather than a hodgepodge of different companies.

(I won’t list their personal information, but … a disturbing amount of it was easily accessible. Home address, tax IDs,… it’s actually kinda terrifying. I understand recording deeds, ownership etc., but this is a bit much.)

Rounding up to the higher $1k, those plots of land are valued at:

Owner 1 (blue): $1.7M land + $3k buildings
Owner 2 (red): $96k land + no buildings

The total area of all these parcels are something along the lines of 20,800 sq meters (239,000 sq ft), via Google Maps.

It would be cool if we could do something like this? (The way to squeeze in bus/BRT bays while keeping it from being a distraction in the nearby neighborhood’s difficult to describe with words, so here’s a crude map instead)

Now that TIGER grants are replaced with BUILD grants (which is designed to heavily favor road-centric developments over something like shuffling around Cary’s downtown traffic), though, I’m not sure how viable such a grant application would be now :confused:

Does anyone know what’s up with the study @roguejam mentioned? Doesn’t seem like that website has been updated in ages.

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I took the initiative to let them know of the coming tidal wave of traffic bearing down upon them. Your map-making was a little better than my quick mark-up. I was still thinking though, that the headhouse could straddle the tracks at Durham Road letting that be the effective front entrance.

And, like RUS, there’s likely going to be a need for 2-4 house tracks (sidings) off of the main to keep the line clear for freight traffic (especially with the desire to have high-level boarding).

I envisioned something along the lines that I saw in Albany-Rensselaer when taking the train to Montreal.

But, we could probably do without the gondola…

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Now, along that same idea, but not quite as palatial is the old Wabash station on Delmar Boulevard in Saint Louis built in 1929. It served as a suburban station and easier option than going to board at Saint Louis Union Station.

This right of way is now being used by MetroLink, and the head house was purchased by Washington University for adjoining TOD of properties they already own.

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(BTW: There were ramps, elevators, and later escalators from the head house down to the platforms. But, they got cut off when the Wabash abandoned the right-of-way in 1970.)

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Old school BRT in STL!!!

The railroad folks I hang out with were also saying that the roadwork planned for the Beltline and Blue Ridge could easily accommodate the extra track(s) between Meredith and the Fairgrounds without trouble.

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The fiscal conservative in me hopes we can snag some of Caltrain’s F40PHs that should be surplus once their electrification project is complete. They are a young fleet, most having been built around 1998 or so. In railroad terms, that’s basically brand new.

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A 2 minute glance at this makes the obvious location just east of the current station across Academy. Put the Terminal where the parking lot it is, and platforms on either side extending east.

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Can imagine that a BRT line from Raleigh would proceed out Western/East Chatham, diverge at Durham Road terminating at the new CYN. And, it could proceed further west on Chapel Hill Road. (Or, just loop back around the Cary Municipal campus.)

With parking decks, new head house, new high level platforms, house tracks, overpass at Durham Road, BRT service, etc, the new CYN (I’m avoiding the abbreviation CUS) could be approaching the budget we saw with RUS/RGH.

And, that’s not counting the cost to grade separate Academy and Harrison. Start the grant-writing machine yesterday.

(And, the whiners who now board at CYN because of the loss of free parking at RUS/RGH are going to whine some more.)

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I am an idiot. Durham Road already goes under the tracks. Oy!! :man_facepalming:

Back to the drawing board (but, this is a better condition to start from).

OK.

  1. Add the house track and the high level platform on either side (yellow).

  2. Buy and renovate the warehouse (blue) for the head house with a passageway to the platform/house track adjacent to the NCRR/NS H-Line and tunnel under the main line to reach the platform/house track adjacent to the CSX S-Line.

  3. Add the additional parking deck (green) next to the current ‘Town of Cary Parking Deck.’

  4. Keep Jordan Lake Brewing as an amenity item.

  5. Widen East Durham Road to accomodate the BRT’s with plenty of room off of Wilkinson for a turnaround, either in front of the new station or looping around the Cary Municipal campus.

  6. And, depress Academy and Harrison while keeping access to the old CYN which will retain its municipal functions.

My budget just dropped quite a bit.

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