Five Points, East End Market, & Raleigh Iron Works

2 years? You think Raleigh will do this that quickly? :eyes: :rofl:

All it really needs is a guy in an orange vest to stop traffic and another guy with a can of spray paint and a stencil.

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I’ll argue that the slip lane allows pedestrians to shorten the crossing by taking the first quarter of it off the table. As a huge walker, I actually like having these slip lanes. I can cross it with only one lane of one way traffic to navigate while landing on a traffic island if I need to wait to cross the road. This means that I don’t have to crane my neck on the longer crosswalk length to see if someone is coming at me from behind without me being aware.

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There is probably no way around the slip lane here given the need to accommodate trucks around an acute angle corner like this.

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Final touch point meeting for the Five Points Streetscape and Safety Study tomorrow. I’ll try to remember to snag a few pics to share.

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I was really looking forward to the peanut. Guess we should have guessed the city wasn’t going to spend any money on actually improving things at Five Points :sob:

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So it basically took 5 years and $100,000,000 to figure out “let’s basically keep it the same and repaint some crosswalks and close one access point!”

I’m just talking sh*t, don’t take this seriously lol

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Trade-offs Likely will not address extreme speeding. Left turns still conflict with crosswalks. Conflict with crosswalks. It’s so passive.
How phenomenally ineffective.

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But seriously…

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I guess this is what happens when everybody wants change but doesn’t want to change their habits.
Folks using Fairview road don’t want to see it closed, folks driving on Glenwood don’t want to slow down, etc.
In the end we end up with an additional protected left turn signal, yeahhhhh.

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Seriously do we know how much this study cost?

Probably not $100 million - I was exaggerating for comedic effect.

For the doomsday people it clearly says “Near-term Improvements”, hope this helps.

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$350,000 according to the project website

I didn’t get a sense that the peanut was off the table, rather that it isn’t funded at this time.

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So when does city council take the results of this study and fund it? Otherwise this has been a huge waste of time and money.

They’ll wait 10 years and then try again. Only to find out the cost tripled. Like the 6-forks rd project.

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The Midtown CAC meetings have stopped talking about the 6-forks road improvements completely. I think it’s dead in the water. What an insane waste of time, money, and being a gigantic distraction too.

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Meanwhile six forks is a car sewer. I had a pretty miserable time yesterday around 3:30p trying to turn left onto six forks from sandy forks. There were 2x light cycles where we had the green arrow, but there was no where to go. Traffic engineers failing that LOS test with the current light timing

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