General Raleigh History

These photos were posted in the Albert Barden Collection on the State Archives Flickr page without any attached info. Does anyone know if this was somewhere in Raleigh?


Charlotte had a lot less history to work with to start, so its no surprise its almost all gone.

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This area looks to be in the Wakefield Plantation district.

Moredecai, Glenwood, or Ingleside plantations. Need to do a little more research, though.

‘General’ Julian Shakespeare Carr’s Occoneechee plantation (east of Hillsborough), 04/17/1903. There was a horse racing track on the back portion of the property which later became the Occoneechee Speedway.

https://openorangenc.org/buildings/occoneechee-farm-poplar-hill

https://www.ncpedia.org/biography/carr-julian-shakespeare

[Also, the same Julian Carr of the infamous ‘Silent Sam’ dedicatory speech]

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FYI: The remnants of the Occoneechee Speedway are part of Segment 10 of the Mountains-to-Sea Trail. The total trail length is 1200 miles starting at Clingman’s Dome and terminating at Jockey’s Ridge.

I’ve done just a little smidge of it through Falls Lake State Park as I had been challenged to get off my butt and start hiking again after a lengthy absence from the activity.

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The original NS did provide passenger service between Raleigh and Charlotte for a time. I’m looking at the May 31, 1931 public timetable that shows daily train 30 departing Charlotte 7:30 am arriving Raleigh 4:45 pm and daily train 31 departing Raleigh 7:30 am arriving Charlotte 4:50 pm. By 1937 the train numbers were 43 and 66, operating six days a week with fewer stops on a slightly different schedule. These trains originated and terminated at “Jones St Station” in Raleigh. By September 1940, all regularly scheduled service Raleigh-Charlotte over the original NS had been discontinued.

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Thanks, Chuck.

You’ve got some timetables that I don’t have.

Kind of neat article about Glenwood South growing up over the last 20 years, and where it’s potentially heading.

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I’ve seen a similar scenario play out in sections of South Beach, and the writer is correct to presume that the district will likely morph into its next incarnation with all of the new investment, especially Smoky Hollow. The new retail and commercial space coming on line will allow existing and the many hundreds of new residents that are to come to shape its next act.

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I always thought it would be smart if a development like Downtown South would just make a big old walking party street as part of the development and the City of Raleigh designated this area as a special tax zone with legal open container area. People have a party destination, city of Raleigh has money for affordable housing or whatever. Plus no former residents complaining about it.

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That’s a good idea. You could run for city council with that. Make Raleigh Drunktown Again! (Kidding… I do actually like this idea)

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Thanks for posting. It will be interesting to see how Glenwood South develops with the new projects bookending the street.

IMO, one thing that works against Glenwood South becoming more upscale is the lack of an alternative location with a collection of dive bars and clubs. In most college towns there is more of a “strip” by the college, but in Raleigh it feels like GS largely serves that function for NC State which seems to have relatively few bars right by campus. There are a few like Players Retreat, but not as many as I would expect. I could be wrong, but that is my impression.

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It was not like that when I was in school.

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Hillsborough St. has lost a lot of its bars in the last 5-8 yrs @Street_Grid. A few that have closed in that time span are Sadlacks, Katmandu, PB’s, Jackpot, East Village and The Brewery. I think there’s a few more that I’m forgetting too.

When the drinking age for beer and wine went from 18 to 21, it laid the groundwork for Hillsborough St. bar demise. Most college students are too young to drink today. At best, in a standard 4 year college career, one can only legally drink for about 3 semesters. For some, it’s really only their senior year.

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21DA did but a real buzz kill on the bars, dance clubs & venues on H’borough. Course, there was that effort to clean things up. The porn movie house & the head shop right across from central campus offended a few.

They didn’t offend me! I “probably” hit that theater a few times with my friends for bad quality midnight showings of 2nd rate “films”. Of course, this was back in the day when 18 year olds could drink beer and wine, so it was usually a pretty fun time after a few hours of drinking.

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Ain’t that the truth!! lol

It sure didn’t stop us at UNCW from spending our paychecks at Wilmington clubs and bars via someone else’s ID. Except for the beach bars - they actually cared about ALE compliance…

This may sound ridiculous, but in my experience bars are stricter here and it slightly hurts the young person’s perspective of the city. Probably because we’re the cap city with head of ALE here. I had a group of 20 year olds that couldn’t come to one of my 21+ shows unless they were accompanied by a legal guardian. Maybe times have changed everywhere, but in ilm bars always X’d up the under 21 folks with sharpie but still let them in.

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