Raleigh-area Mall / Life-Style Center / RTP Redevelopments

North Trail was north of there. North Haven was north of there. Mine Creek was north of there. Six Forks North was north of there. Certainly there has since been a lot of development, but Lynn Road wasn’t the end of civilization.

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My parents moved from off North Hills Dr. to a new subdivision in North Raleigh in the early 80s. They said most people didn’t understand why they were moving out into the country. Mapping it now, it’s only 4.1 miles between houses, though there are more roads now (the only neighborhood entrance used to be on Strickland). But this was before Greystone, Stonehenge, Celebration shopping centers had opened out there. It was just farmland and new subdivisions. I think Six Forks Station was the first shopping center north of Lynn Road between Glenwood and Falls of Neuse, and it was built in 1983. That changed greatly over the next five years.

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Again, no doubt that there was a lot of development after the early 80s, but there were already developments that were completed earlier. North Ridge started developement in the late 60s. I know that Coachman’s Trail was there further north beyond Strickland Rd on Six Forks in the 70s because my family looked at new homes there in 1974 when we moved to Raleigh. The same is true for Springdale Estates to the NW of Lynn Road because we looked at houses there too.

I do remember that Falls of Neuse was just a two lane road between Millbrook and North Ridge, and that you left the city limits in 1974 as you drove north, and then re-entered the city limits since North Ridge was annexed as a satellite. Lynn road didn’t connect/align to Spring Forest at the time, and there was an old mansion where Lynn cuts through today (near that McDonald’s). Falls Village was already there in 1974 when we moved to Raleigh, and North Ridge Shopping Center was completed by the time I was in high school because I remember going to the Hardee’s there during off-campus lunch from time to time. All of this was before 1980.

When I went to college at State in the early 80s, I did make friends with students who went to Broughton and their perception was that I grew up somewhere near Virginia. LOL.

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As a Broughton grad of your vintage, we did think of Millbrook as another small town way out in the county, like Fuquay. I definately remember thinking of Millbrook as a “county” high school.
We played all our soccer/football home games at Sanderson, which felt like the end of the earth, but was great for post-game parties in laid-out but unbuilt subdivisions. No neighbors, no noise complaints, no cops.
Mini City on Cap Blvd was the end of the earth for decades, the land was used as soccer fields. You had to bring all your drinks and snacks with you because there was zero out there till at least 1980.
I certainly dont dispute @John points about development in the north in the time period, it was always in the papers. I picked up a date in quail hollow area and remember being amazed there was all that out there!!!
This is a great example how your physical position influences your perspective and memories. Its also a great reflection of the explosive growth Raleigh and Wake have experienced since the late 1900s…

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In 1974, we looked in Quail Hollow as well, but those houses weren’t new and my mother wanted a new house. We also looked in Hidden Valley, which is at the NE quadrant of Lynn and Creedmoor. I don’t remember why my parents nixed that one. In the end, I think that my parents chose North Ridge because my dad was told that we might only be in Raleigh for a few years before being relocated again, and they thought North Ridge was a stronger resell. Well, nearly 52 years later…….

As for Millbrook at the time, it was like a tale of two schools. For one, it was a Wake County system school before the merger. Secondly, its student population was dominated by high end neighborhoods like North Ridge and Coachman’s Trail on the one hand, and more established and modest neighborhoods like Brentwood on the other hand. All in all, there was clearly a large “yankee” contingent.

Conversely to your perception of Millbrook, we always thought of the city schools (Enloe and Broughton) as poor schools. It’s funny how perceptions work, and how small our “worlds” were back then, isn’t it?

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My dad also worked there when it was IBM. And i believe, civilization ended further up on Six Forks right past the Strickland intersection where Six Forks became a dirt road.

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Millbrook was its own village for a long time, but it never really grew and eventually got absorbed by Raleigh. The biggest draw at the old Millbrook village center was Hearts Delight ice cream. It was an institution for years and very popular.

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Liveable Raleigh sent out an email regarding their upcoming opposition of the new North Hills rezoning. They seemed to have updated their graphics with 360 video views of all shadows and the time they will impact. 400+ feet of shadows cast towards the neighborhoods.

5 videos:

Z-34-25 Orbit

Z-34-25 East Rowan View

Z-34-25 View from South

Z-34-25 Lassiter Mill Rd View

Z-34-25 Six Forks Road View

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I love how much taller their theoretical, full parcel sized blocks appear than the actual 30+ story building which is already built and also shown in their rendering. :person_facepalming:

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This has to be a joke

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These people are out of their fucking minds lmao

Either they think their supporters are stupid- or they just are actually stupid.

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Drove past Crabtree Mall today and it looks like something is actually being built from out of the old Sears section:

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To be fair, we have concrete proof there are a LOT of idiots in our country. Like just over half.

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If anyone has watched the planning commission or council meetings, they’d know that in exchange for the height, they are going to cover less of the site with a building and the entitlement stays the same. These full site monstrosity graphics are so ridiculous that it has to hurt their credibility.

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That is the new Dick’s House of Sport. They took down a big part of the old facade (back to the steel) on the east and west sides of the old Sears tenant space. They have been working on it for a few months now. From what I can tell they are taking down the steel frame from the are where the old facade was and it will be even with the roof line. (Old facade below)

If there is a wreck on 440 and I have take Edwards Mill home, I’ll try to get a picture as I sit in 3 light cycles to cross Glenwood Ave :person_facepalming:

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Serious question for all, who wants to come out and support this one? There is movement on showing up to council on Jan 6 and wearing green.

Parkside can be the unofficial pre-meeting spot before we go to the meeting. I’m planning to go.

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I support this development but I don’t care for the fact that the transit hub deal is no longer being considered by Kane. That is a perfect location for a hub.

Have fun on the 6th, I’m not trying to attend a yelling match.

I never seen a place so obsessed with shadows. Does Livable Raleigh have a shadow forecast for every day of the year as the sun sets at different angles and in different directions slightly?
And how come the 36 story Walter tower looks half the height or 2/3 the height of these proposed towers at 40 stories? The incredible value of homes within a 10 minute walk of North Hills is due to the development. I have seen all the homes they are plowing over to build McMansions so people obviously like living in that area. These “shadowy” videos are plain propaganda through and through.

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This obsession with shadows is fvcking ridiculous.

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My only issue with North Hills is it’s siphoning offices and highrise residential that could be going to a downtown that desperately needs it. Kane’s had a parcel in downtown zoned for this height for a decade. Still waiting on Smoky Hollow 3.

Having a second CBD is an extravagence cities should indulge in only after they have a first one.

But on the other hand density is density and I’d take North Hills all day over another McMansion subdivision in outer Wake County.

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