RDU Expansion/2040 Master Plan

Unfortunately it sounds like the are already nearing capacity “About those wide-body planes. RDU’s Terminal 2 can accommodate them only at the ends of the two concourses, two at each end. At the same time, international flights must arrive at the end of Concourse C, where passengers follow a walkway to Customs and Border Protection. So RDU must do some shuffling to handle three international wide-body flights at a time.”

Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article288872524.html#storylink=cpy

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while the numbers of connecting passengers is numerically bigger than it used to be, the math on the 4 month numbers you shared is 61 people connecting a day making connections at RDU. (7340/120 days in the 2024 stats) up from 6 (680/120 from your 2023 stats). One could look at that and say OMG it’s gone up 10x! Not sure what an airline “hotspot” is, but RDU is not on its way to being a “hub” from 60 people a day making a connection here. We are a spoke to many other hub cities, including the 4 international European hubs we now have flights from, along with Mexico and Panama coming soon. People will travel to and from the hubs of London Heathrow (AA), Paris (Air France), Frankfut (Lufthansa), Rekjavik (Icelandair), Panama City (Copa), and Mexico City (Aeromexico), and lastly Montreal and Toronto (Air Canada). But it is each of THESE cities that are the hub. RDU is not the hub for any of these.

Delta has continuously post-COVID stated they treat RDU and Austin as focus cities, but they haven’t defined that well, and don’t currently have the aircraft in the fleet they once flew to and from RDU before COVID when there were another 6-8 nonstop cities from RDU on Delta. Once they get more planes back in their fleet (a supply issue) and more pilots hired (staffing issue) we will likely see more Delta flights to our focus city of RDU.

Currently AA has more passenger traffic than Delta at RDU by about 1%, it’s like 29% AA 28% Delta, followed by Southwest and all the other cats and dogs airlines. United is way back, nothing like AA or Delta’s presence at RDU.

AA continues flying from RDU (a non hub) to several other non-hubs like Austin, Cincinnati, but has dropped other nonhubs from RDU like Orlando and Tampa due to trash numbers for revenue. Too many other competitors. But just last week AA fired their CCO, Chief Commercial Officer, who has been a big proponent of this non-hub to non-hub flying from key cities like RDU. So we will have to see what AA and Delta do as they jockey for market share.

One thing I noticed buried in a document someone else shared here about the RDU plans: the airline club space in terminal 2 is planned to triple or quadruple in size, from the schematics in the doucment. That all apparently happens in Phase ONE of the expanded “landside” facilities which enable expansion of the Customs and Immigration processing.

Anyone notice that really long passageway from the gates at the end of the “C” concourse that is up by the ceiling? Everyone coming international arrivals arrives and immediately goes up the escalator to that opague windowed hallway, and that passageway blocks the ability to expand the club facilities for AA. But the new plans show the bigger space for customs and immigration processing, which is sorely needed due to all these new international flights,so along with increased parking, these are some of the first projects that are coming VERY soon, the next year or so.

For those who don’t use the airline club lounges upstairs (they require a membership or a premium credit card to access, along the lines of $800 a year and usable only when flying the matching airline or partner airline), these are the windowed spaces you see way up above the concourse and accessible by the elevator bank across from gates C3 and D3. The AA club even has shower suites available for members to freshen up, and all 3 have free booze and food.

Once the space exists for more customs and immigration, the plans appear to show way way more space available for existing clubs to expand…Heck maybe we could even get a “fly anyone” bank sponsored lounge like Amex Centurion Lounge or Chase Lounge with all the extra space they’ll be building on the upper level.

RDU likes that (any airport would) because that’s leasable space, i.e. it’s all about the money.

Here are the screen captures i did. I just didn’t write down what page they were from on a VERY long RDU document…It was like 1800 pages long and publicly available

Current space on upper level lounges in T2 (just the DL and AA lounges in this screen capture but they plan to expand space over at the United Lounge to the left side of TSA screening).

Future expansion in Phase 1 of T2 landside expansion projects:
(only showing the Delta/AA club space changes, not the United club space on the left of TSA)


the areas in gray are mechanical HVAC equipment which is unchangeable/not moveable, but will help orient you to what you’re looking at before and after expansion.

Combined Overlay of existing and expanded available space, to get a sense of the new expanded size available for existing clubs or even possibly more clubs than currently at RDU:

Bottom line, RDU is growing, but it’s not going to be a hub. Just an increasingly large spoke. It was the fastest growing large US airport for the 12 months for 2023, from US Dept of Transp stats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhJ6-_Skr4E

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RDU set another record with 1.4m passengers in May, a new monthly record. 10.5 percent over April and 9.7 percent up year over year.

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2024/06/20/rdu-passenger-traffic-volume-may-record.html

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I haven’t been to the airport since last summer. But from what I’m hearing the security lines have been very long lately.

Was at the airport yesterday picking up my grandfather woh looking at moving here from New York the airport was busy.

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There were rumors this route was getting cancelled, but it has arrived!

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What is the timing for getting the pedestrian bridge over the road in front of departure area? Took a flight out today and what a total cluster that whole situation is. Way too many people coming and going now for that to continue much longer. Cars just stacked up as a river of people trade back and forth over that crosswalk.

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TL/DR: probably 2027/28 at earliest, possibly never depending on $.
Here’s the construction timeline of things that have to happen before we get our pedestrian bridge:

  1. open the 7,000 parking space expansion of remote lot 3, currently under construction. Some spaces come online there in 2025, the rest in 2026. This allows a cushion of needed spaces due to the loss of spaces in the next step

  2. demolish 3-story parking garage the crosswalk connects with that you’re talking about along with all the surface parking lots in the middle of the looping access road between T1 and T2. Lose 3000+ parking spaces during this time (hence the need for the expanded remote lot 3). This is planned to happen in 2025 sometime. Replacing the old 3-story garages will be the new multi-story ground transportation center for uber/lyft/taxis, hotel shuttles, employee shuttles, parking shuttles (maybe?), and anyone patient/dumb enough to ride a bus to the airport. Tunnel has to be dug for pedestrians to go down from Terminal 2 bag claim, UNDER THE ARRIVALS ROADWAY…and back up into the new ground transportation center. Can’t imagine this is done before 2026 or 2027.

  3. Ground transportation Center can’t open without roads to get vehicles into it. So sometime 2025 or 2026 a new roadway system will begin construction that will help with traffic by splitting lanes so that you don’t get slowed down by T1 or T2 if you’re heading to the opposite terminal, or if you’re trying to exit or get to parking garages. I’d expect roads and GTC to be 2026 to 2027 at earliest. Might be more like 2028-ish

  4. Replace Crosswalk: Passenger bridge ABOVE the dropoff lanes for T2 has been proposed to connect into the Ground Transportation Center. IF they have the money for this I’d guess 2027 at very earliest, that may not be anywhere close. Could be much later if they are short on funds. I expect the crosswalk will close since people will go under the road in the tunnel to the GTC and go thru that to the parking garage or the new Consolidate Rental Car Garages. Those will be built over the surface lots across from where the north entrance roadway comes into the main roadway between T1 and T2. All these new vehicle structures will look more or less like the existing very large garage.

  5. The new canopy gets installed over the dropoff curb area sometime in here.

Keep in mind these construction projects, and many others, are planned to last until 2040 and thru 2050. these 2026 and 2027 dates may be WAYYYY too ambitious to be thinking you will be avoiding that cluster of a crosswalk. maybe early 2030’s? Hopefully things have stayed on schedule. Guarantee you these time frames have not sped up, though.

Pro Tip: Use READING MODE on google chrome browser and view most any paywalled article including the one below. You just don’t get the photos in CHROME READING MODE. It’s a window that floats to your right. Genius.

2023 Source: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article278276303.html

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Initially, RDU-CDG was scheduled to return to the 787-9 and at 5x weekly in late October 2024 (they were at 3x weekly last year) and have the 777-200ER take over at end of March for the spring/summer. However, Air France has now decided they will keep the a350-900 at 5x weekly through the end of March. They still have that 777-200ER scheduled for the spring/summer, but with the loads they are seeing this summer and the necessity to have a larger aircraft for the winter, I can imagine the a350-900 will remain here for some time.

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https://www.rdu.com/rdu-approved-to-build-largest-of-its-kind-stormwater-management-system-in-n-c/

RDU Approved to Build Largest of its Kind Stormwater Management System in N.C.

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Coming soon to RDU’s D Concourse: “Conniption Cocktails and Cuisine”-- barely edging out the ever-popular national franchise Convulsion Bar and Grill

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I’m pretty excited about this, Scott Crawford’s place, and the Bond Brothers spot. Just want them to open.

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RDU was a breeze this morning so here’s my pics from a walk starting at the C gates to D. My favorite is the Hudson News City Market shop. :blush: Coming soon and local spots shown primarily.

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I’d prefer coming now. These places have been announced for so long, but nothing is actually open.

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Looks like bahamasair removed their winter sales to RDU. Could be moving to seasonal but I wouldn’t be surprised if they left the market completely.

Correction: already seasonal so they’re exiting the market completely

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Breeze just announced a network expansion which included RDU-DAB (Daytona)

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It is SO frustrating. I have traveled several times lately and I just smh going through RDU versus landing in XYZ airport which has so much more to offer. I sure hope RDU gets their act together soon.

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Well, Black & White did just open, which reduced a lot of the gigantic line issue La Farm had.

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I always wonder who all the folks are that buy overpriced airport food. Now I know…

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I always get a pastry, coffee, and water from la farm.
Also never have waited more than 10 minutes there, so I guess I’m just lucky

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