3rd quarter of 2022 is very quick. That’s even before the expected ground breaking of the Nexus and that’s been on the table for ages.
Kane’s son is not kidding around. Btw the Roxboro and Venable Center nears (exterior) completion in Durham
Ahhh like father like son. He probably doesn’t give out too many details about the project until he’s ready to break ground.
$34.75 million purchase price for 7.5 acres in all. ~$4.6million per acre.
Excited for the density and a new pedestrian corridor; hope/wish they’d keep a couple of the 20th century buildings and adaptively reuse them/work them in. I always think a mix of old and new helps root a place in its history, adds texture, human scale, and helps massive developments like this feel less sterile. These could’ve been great bars or something.
Those authentically gritty brick garages would be nice. Fun signage opportunities there too.
I feel like the Fullsteam/Pit area of Durham was successful with that. Across the street from Motorco there’s Hutchins Garage (another bar). Pretty sure it was also an old garage turned into something cool.
Whenever I see buildings like this get snatched up for mega-redevelopments I also just kind of think it’s a shame that we don’t have any accessible gritty urban spaces left for a place like Legends or Goodnights to relocate when those buildings get demolished. An area like this just outside of downtown would be a great place for galleries/clubs with individual ownership, or an area similar to Durham’s Geer St.
Esse quam videri. Raleigh isn’t gritty let’s not pretend. Focus on what we have like greenery/greenway connections.
two 20-floor towers will certainly be imposing here but bring it on! also, all the yellow properties seem to be owned by the same group - curious about the potential there - might be nice to have a ~7 floor height there
Replacing a 1 story building, even if it’s quirky or gritty, with a 20 story building, is almost always OK with me, unless it’s like a seriously historically significant building.
Totally. But even better is incorporating an old building into a new 20 floor one.
Sometimes, but don’t let the tail wag the dog.
Now we just have to figure out this area between DTS and here and we’re really rolling.
Obviously not for any houses being taken over but if we can at least get something worth going to along S Saunders and some nice stuff on the corners our urban feeling area coming off 40 will be much improved and make the city feel twice as big.
That’d bring us one step closer to a nearly 7 mile continuous stretch of urban
Anyone on floors 7-20 would have an amazing view of Dix park.
Trust me, I won’t pretend that Raleigh values history, aesthetics, design, grit, charm, or anything else along those lines. I’ll consider this a win if the city can at least force the developer to build some half-assed pedestrian infrastructure since, you know, they won’t do it themselves…
Edit: forgot the grumpy cat -
Interesting thing about infrastructure - typically (good) developers work to blend into the fabric of a place.
Problem we have at times is trying to leverage the developer to elevate the lack of place-making that the city has developed with policy. Gosh Darn’t frustrating it is…
City gotta support the good Dev’s.
City gotta stir up that good policy gumbo to preserve (what should be) and evolve (what could be).
City gotta instigate the bad Dev’s to be better.
There’s the programme for this site @dtraleigh built and most of our interest here.
How to…? All ideas welcome…
Is it pretending when they’re real (light-)industrial buildings?
Don’t get me wrong, I want the towers, but the brick garages could add some fun street-level pedestrian variety, something that isn’t a traditional Raleigh strength.
Moot point anyway, they’re probably all going down, and I really am happy about the project.
I think about this every time I drive down S. Saunders/Lake Wheeler. I think this nook could be reshaped into it’s own walkable retail/art district when combined with the “greater” South Street neighborhood. There’s honestly so much character in the current buildings and potential for street level retail and activation if the auto-oriented shops could relocate and the properties repurposed without complete demo.
I totally agree here. Are we so sure that these buildings are for sure coming down? We haven’t seen the plans yet, it’s possible they may at least keep the facades and incorporate them into the new buildings. Unlikely, I know, but it would be a really happy marriage of keeping the gritty/industrial vibe with the shiny new development.