Late to the party but glad this one was a W! So much green in those pics 
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I would love to see Endless Grind stay around the area, either on Glenwood, in Smoky Hollow/the Line buildings, or potentially over in Seaboard Station.
Even if temporary, as it would be REALLY awesome if they returned to this spot, in the ground floor of the new development whenever that is finished!
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Peace Street is a prime location but I wonder if they could find space further up West Street, like an old warehouse with enough space for indoor skating and small ledges to test out gear. That could be pretty cool.
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Also the potential to be steps away from the future permanent skate spot at the park.
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I think their biggest problem is going to be going from 1986 rent to 2025+ rent.
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Hmmm would love to know if her no vote is truly how she thinks on this, or more symbolic because she knew it was passing.. either way, shame.
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The lead of the opposition effort lives in her district and Iām sure was in her ear. Many of her questions mirrored the bullet points in his (extremely wordy) slides during the open comments session.
So sheās a shill for a wealthyā¦. Guy who lives in her neighborhood? What an awful, telling look that isā¦.
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Pivoting this conversation a bit, I truly believe that the folks in Glenwood-Brooklyn will come to appreciate the entire redevelopment of the Park, this development, and what it spawns up West St. I suspect that we are actually looking at a 10 year window before that area is completely transformed. It will make their lives better as well as those in the greater Glenwood South area.
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Agreedā¦ Smoky Hollow Park is going to be a gem for this city and those living nearby.
I guarantee you those neighbors that fought in opposition against this rezoning, will eventually find themselves enjoying the park & the park facing dining establishments that are going to come with this.
The developers have the perfect vision for their project. I hope they manage to pull this one off, as it could be one the best developments weāve seen for our downtown
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nahhh they should all be banned from entering LOL
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I have been waiting for this response since Tuesday night from Unlivable Raleigh. Is any of this true about funding the mayoral campaign? or are they just throwing a temper tantrum?
āThe City Councilās decision to approve the rezoning case on West Street (Z-12-25), adjacent to the Glenwood-Brooklyn neighborhood, is hard to understand ā unless, that is, you understand that a majority of Council always approves rezoning cases, no matter how outsized, because the development industry controls them.
But what about the cityās Comprehensive Plan? Does Council just ignore it?
Yes.
The Comprehensive Plan includes transition zones between central-core downtown locations, where the tallest buildings are allowed, and nearby neighborhoods with houses, like Glenwood-Brooklyn.
Transition zones make sense. Tall buildings have their place. Houses have their place. In between, the building heights should taper down so the two things can happily co-exist.
This is what the Comprehensive Plan says. In fact, the transition zone where the Z-12-25 site exists was specifically added to the Comp Plan two years ago by a previous Council when it rejected virtually the same rezoning case that the new Council approved Tuesday night.
Thus, the outcome of the Z-12-25 case should have been a foregone conclusion.
No, should have been the outcome.
But the Raleigh City Council has a way of disappointing. It was disappointing when Mary-Ann Baldwin was mayor and carried the development industryās water. Anyone who expected the new mayor, Janet Cowell, to be different, well, you just donāt understand who paid for Cowellās election.
The development industry.
Disappointing. But not surprising.
Credit to Council members Jane Harrison and Christina Jones for voting no. Harrisonās district includes the Z-12-25 site. That made no difference, apparently, to the six other Council members who voted yes. Including Cowell.
The new mayor, like the old one, understands the basic principle: No matter how outsized, rezoning cases always succeed.ā
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Oh, I think they should be welcomed. However they should be forced to eat a large plate of crow every time they enter.
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Itās exaggerated but it is true that those in real estate and development donate to councilors. I guess you can decide for yourself what kind of an impact it has on this kind of stuff.
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The donor companies to campaigns has an impact, but alsoā¦ running a growing city is largely centered around managing resources and development.. Managing water, sewer, tax base, and public infrastructure. Thatās like 80% of the job
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Some of Russ Stephensonās biggest donors were realtors and developers.
People that are smart and want to do business in town donate money to whoever has a reasonable chance to win, one side or the other, or both sides. Jane Harrison got more % of her donations from developers than Janet Cowell did. Isnāt it odd how Cowell belongs to developers but Harrison gets a high five from LR?
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@OakCityDylan and others who seem to be buddies or partners with the developers to some extent. Itās up to you guys to keep their feet over the fire.
They need to keep their word on their promised affordable housing contributions and incorporation of public spaces facing smoky hollow park into the design.
I think almost all of us agree that they should also incorporate micro-retail AND medium-to-large retail spaces into their plans. It can be done, because the developers of The Walker in Cary seemed to have found a way: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNMrHiKtBOE/?igsh=cGxrcnZybHJ0Y2Rp (sorry I couldnāt find good pictures to show its size)
I may have more info to share later, but at least for now I can tell you the developer has every desire and intent to develop this property and is hoping to do it in conjunction with the park development. Economic impacts pending, this is not an up-zone and flip situation.
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