I’m not sure this is the exact best place for this thread but it is happening in South Park. I received a notice of a rezoning application on the corner of E. Cabarrus and S. Bloodworth. It looks like the developers already own the 4 properties which consist of 3 single family homes and a small duplex. They are seeking to change the zoning from in NX-3 and OX-3 to DX-5.
This property is right on the eastern edge of historic Prince Hall and is on a block of mostly single family homes. It seems very aggressive to seek a zoning change that would allow a 75 ft tall 5 storey building in that area. The land is a little over. 5 acres with a total property tax value of almost 1.4 million.
Is it just me or does this seem out of character for the immediate surroundings? I am all for increased density but five floors in this area will overshadow the single family homes on the rest of the block. IMO. Thoughts?
Nah, it’s not out of character. Single family housing in East Downtown is doomed. You’re minutes from downtown, that’s super premium property so I expect density to eventually be similar to NCSU/Hillsborough Street levels.
Its on the east side of the street, away from downtown. Carlton place is just to the north and its three storeys. This is a small footprint for a tall building.
I’ve got to agree with @Francisco here. This area is much too close to downtown to be restricting to less than 5 stories here. It’s 2 blocks from a 20-story, 250 ft tower (Red Hat), and there are 6-story buildings only 1 block to the south (Shaw).
If expanding the dense core of downtown by even just a block or two is prohibited by the presence of SFHs, then we pretty much can’t expand the core at all, as nearly the entire core is bounded by historically mostly/exclusively SFH neighborhoods.
You bate to see it. I’ve been saying this for years people have been disagreeing with me. You wouldn’t see that blasphemy happen in any other medium or large city in the U.S.
All y’all got it backwards. The blasphemy is that some deep pockets person, not from here, can build a big expensive office building and by way of the property tax system and capitalism (that the property tax systems coattails on), force anyone nearby in their home they’ve been in for 50 years, out. Another blasphemy is cul-de-sacs, and just because 99% of the surface area of Raleigh is cul-de-sac laden developments, all of sudden anything that’s a SFH in someone’s subjective downtown frame, is blasphemy. BS. I support 60 story buildings where the office building environment already exists, but this pre ordained mowing down of the rest of the SFHs on square grid is total crap. Some pretty important and well known Raleigh fancy pants live out that way and they might object to having their toddler’s yards in shadows all day cast by a 75 tall building.
This is where the missing midddle housing should go. For transition. That block is rough in spots and too close to existing commercial for single family rehab. If it were so desirable for single family it would have been converted to that years ago like the blocks further east. Get some people living on that block and not a bunch of vacant lots and the rest of the single family housing may have a chance of surviving.
Boo hoo lol. No but serious you can’t honestly believe things are going to stay the same especially that close to a few of the city’s tallest buildings. Times change and cities grow, they can’t grow properly without expanding districts and allowing developers to develop valuable land.
Proper urban planning which does not exist in Raleigh would’ve fixed these issues long ago if they properly had a trickle down affect 40+ mixed used in the CBD (central business district or Fayetteville st.), 20+ mixed-use/residential 2-3 blocks away, 10+ residential or office 4-5 blocks away . With some areas like Glenwood South, Smoky Hollow, North Hills, Crabtree as exceptions
I don’t see even missing middle housing being built here. The tax value of this property is 1.5 million for about a half acre. None of those existing homes looks like a tear down to me. One is fairly new, looks like two are from early 20s. They look fairly well kept. Its going to be an expensive project from my estimate. I’m not a developer but it seems like these need to be high dollar to make work. There is a conference call for nearby property owners Tuesday. Should get more info then.
I am in the camp that believes there is no market for ‘middle’ with those tax valuations…
Thus, the challenge with ‘affordable’ planning without sincere oversight and or grant programs from the government which the puts us into a circular conversation around free markets and socialism…
This is government influenced capitalism pure and simple. Replace it with local income tax and then instead of these high dollar and low dollar neighborhoods you will get a much more mixed and healthy city. And less influence from the almighty dollar via the tax valuations and yes, less ability by profit motive driven developers to influence entire areas with MLS and zip code connotations and such.
. With some areas like Glenwood South, Smoky Hollow, North Hills, Crabtree as exceptions