How are these comparable?
i was only pointing out that people have things they feel are right for their neighborhood…scale, proportion…density - because their neighborhood had or has things ‘they’ like about it . I’m not sure some of their points are so often flameworthy exactly. this pic is of some smallish studios built near 1985 on the end of huntleigh drive in the Brentwood area. this bordered a 10 acre pond and was directly behind i guess capital plaza SC? grocer, Mcdonalds, radio shack etc… i lived about 5 houses down but i cant remember any stink being raised about these and they seemed at the time to fit right in to me (it was two total buildings, reasonable cost and adding some density.) they lit up a dark corner at the end of the road.
Now that I have slowed down and looked at the ASR plan set I see that the first completed tower is an emergency stairwell only. There will be another such stairwell tower located near the SW corner that can be seen stubbed up now.
Currently working on a two-elevator tower located near the Person Street edge.
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Elevator tower (2 elevators) completed along with eastern stairwell. Platform assembly used for block work now in position for the western stairwell. Final height of the building now evident although perhaps better perceived from a Person street level view.
Hotel is to be the same seven-story height with parking provided within the apartment building deck. Crane is presumably much higher than either building in order to clear the adjoining cell tower (yellow arrow) within its theoretical swing radius to the south although all swings are to the north.
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I was wondering about the overkill in crane height. Sound explanation.
I don’t recall, are we expecting the hotel to break ground soon using the same crane?
Originally slated to being Summer of 22, but after seeing how much of the Hotel’s footprint is being used as staging for equipment and materials, that might be difficult unless they use another vacant property near by.
But they were true to their claim of starting at the end of 2021 in December, so who knows.
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They have 1 week. Maybe we should remind them?
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I like how these projects bring more residents to downtown, but really not a fan of these “midrise” type buildings so close to our city center. I wish they would make it twice as high on half the footprint and accomplish the same goal.
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I don’t think that every building in the city center needs to be some 20 story tower. I’m happy with anything taller than 5-6 stories, especially when it’s replacing some 1-2 story building or a gravel parking lot.
And this might be a controversial opinion, but I think that these mid-rise buildings create a more inviting streetscape on the fringe of downtown, but maybe that’s just me.
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I get what you’re saying but with this one being closer to the edge where SF homes are I think it’s an okay transition.
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It’s fine - even Manhattan has plenty of midrises. And like @atl_transplant mentioned, it’s a good stepping stone down, and makes it easier and less shocking if a skyscraper is proposed next to it.
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Yea everyone will see it different, I get that. It is only 2 1/2 blocks from our “main street” though and 2 blocks from Moore square, directly south. Not exactly the fringe of our downtown.
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That’s fair, it’s pretty close to the heart of downtown, but I just don’t think there’s the market pressure for nearly every building downtown to be a high rise, and it likely won’t be like that for a long time.
In the meantime I’ll take what we can get.
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I agree with you that the Acorn is better than what was there previously. The more residents we have downtown the more retail and office space will follow. But even if you used 1/2 the footprint and double the height, you are still looking at only a 14 story building and less than 200 feet tall. I certainly wouldn’t advocate for a 40 story building to go here.
My question is what would the cost difference be to buy half the land but build twice as high? It’s already a concrete structure so there wouldn’t be any limitations based off of building materials.
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Only the base is concrete as this will be a 5-over-2 composite building with the residential portion being framed construction. So significant difference in cost to construct.
Parcel that was subdivided for the two projects was zoned for seven stories. Much of the western frontage along Blount is also limited in height except for Skyhouse. Red Hat building steps down along the street frontage and Edison apartments are five stories.
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Ah thanks! I didn’t realize the top 5 floors were not going to be concrete. That certainly changes things.
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Fayetteville for sure will always remain our “main street,” but the energy certainly has shifted west.
I am good with this step down into the residential east side.
If we are getting bigger, I want to see them in the doughnut hole we have between our two loci of real activity.
Where are the new N&O block proposals!!
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