William Peace and Seaboard Station

I think there was some back and forth about this but it looks like the plan is to save Seaboard Station

“the current plan is to move the station to the north part of the property to make way for a pair of towers”


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Saving (moving). I think it’s a win/win. I don’t think the station existing in it’s original location (it’s not even the original train station, nor was it Raleigh’s station for an extensive period of time) is a big deal. It’ll still be in the same general location.

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I love the idea It will look nice

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And finally, DTR will get it’s dreamed after square blue glass office buildings :joy:

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Win win. Extending the skyline y’all.

The view headed north or south on Capital will be sweet.

The urban feel will dramatically be enhanced northbound Wilmington St.

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If the railroad is ever realigned as per the Artery concept, then the S line corridor can be converted into a street, a greenway, or perhaps a tramway. So while I am a big fan of the idea of 20 story buildings here, I have to say I am not a fan of the thousand-foot-long monolith they are planning. They should split the plan into two blocks, by retaining a corridor that would allow Franklin to be extended through. I suppose it could be mitigated by having a public passageway through the parking deck, but that’s not as good as a real open air corridor.

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It would be great if the train tracks could be used for something cool and valuable. Light rail through DT, large converted greenway as you mentioned etc.

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HELL YES. I love it.

Here’s “rendering B” (looking North between the buildings)

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Meh…
The building itself is nothing special without the legacy platform’s canopy.

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Agreed, sad and disappointing. :frowning_face:
Is this in North Raleigh? RTP? Etc.
Its certainly not in North Hills as it is too short :scream: :wink: :rofl:

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I’m not one to look a density gift horse in the mouth, and I love that they’re making Seaboard so urban and saving the station, but… you’d think one of the developers in this would try and make a little bit of a statement, just to add a sense of place and desirability.

Connected to that, are those actual plans or just a “get the people excited” density massing with some artistic license taken on the buildings’ look? Because if it’s the second, hope isn’t lost.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but the canopy is right there in the renderings, right?

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Yeah they’re saving the entirety of the original platform canopy! Which is both really nice, and also could be really useful when the development is finished - imagine a weekend farmers market with vendors lined up down the length of the canopy!!!

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Yes, the article specifically mentions that “much of the canopy that runs along the tracks would be preserved.” Not sure what percent “much” is, but I feel like Turnbridge is making a real effort. They are the group that is also keeping the creamery building intact.

Another thing I really, really like is how they are designing to interact with Hoffman’s project. “Part of the objective is to create a streetscape that is compatible with what Hoffman is doing.”

That is so refreshing and exactly what we need in an urban environment. So many projects in Raleigh are inward oriented and purposely don’t connect with the surrounding area.

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Well, if the plan is to relocate the station to the North side of the property then these renderings don’t depict that aspect…it’d essentially be a second ‘plaza’ on the north side ‘similar’ to the rendering B @jake just dropped? Which would be refreshing ‘evolution’ if executed well because you’d have canopy ‘bookends’ ( or possibly a throughline ) on either end of the new Dev…
Use canopy for pop ups, markets, etc…Perhaps the cafe could continue / reinvent in some fashion (although Turnbridge gonna want their pound of flesh which changes the cost of your chicken salad, LoLs)
Still, should be nice additional density with human scale zones at each end.

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Per the TBJ article, the developer must keep more than 50% of the existing building. Granted that doesnt have to be the canopy, but I’d imagine they’d keep a lot of the external facade to please the public. Especially with all of the public attention this development is attracting.

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only because it’d be hidden behind the taller tower to the North of the view they’ve given in the render, FYI

The plan shown seems to indicate that they left some of the inner canopy on either end while gutting the larger middle section, while leaving the outer canopy intact. That is, of course, if that’s what’s indicated in red-orange on the plan.

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Does anyone know how you physically relocate a brick building?