Why would we want to revamp a current historical lot which is pretty much the only historical parcel left in the city when there are plenty of surface lots and other lots that are much better to be slated for development? We don’t want our Fayetteville Street Historic District to become the Rainey Street Historic District in Austin (completely gentrified with no history left).
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This building looks almost exactly like the Harrington block rendering across from The Dillion. We’ve got lots of those types of blocks around DTR and I think it would look cool to have 4 or more of these clustered.
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Because people are short-sighted, tasteless, and greedy.
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These lots are not going to look the same forever, it’s going to happen eventually. I’m just stating an idea, I’m sorry I offended you guys lol 
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Don’t worry - It’s not you that offends me, per se. Its an unremitting lack of aesthetic judgment by most Americans that is frustrating. Especially those who choose to live in Raleigh.
Even I, noted zoning and historic preservation skeptic, would acknowledge that there’s some real history on this block, and it would be nice to see that preserved in some way. But this just illustrates what I’ve long argued: if you want to be able to preserve the truly historic stuff, then you need to be aggressive about upzoning the not-so important areas. The future has to go somewhere, and the more land that NIMBYs can cast in amber with zoning regulations, the harder it becomes to preserve anything else.
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There is actually plenty of room on that block to fit a couple of large towers, without substantially impacting the streetscape and while preserving much of the historic buildings.
I am not really a fan of outright facadectomies, but preserving the buildings to a depth of 50’ would be fine with me.
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Makes you think a little.
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It says “Something went wrong”…?
Even though I don’t have a Twitter account it usually lets me view?
How is this relevant to the topic?
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You did post a Twitter link which falsely represented Florida Covid numbers comparing New Yorks…
Apologies for posting something a bit ambiguous. My main point was not about the numbers. My point was that earlier this year, there was discussion around density being a major factor in virus spread and now we are seeing spread in Florida, a largely lower density area. The conversation should be about that virus spread not exactly being higher in urban centers. Or maybe there’s another factor in play?
BTW, the chart is from the Wall Street Journal so you can certainly take it up with them on accuracy. I’m just trying to make a point, not argue numbers which isn’t relevant to this forum.
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touche my friend…
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No doubt spread in Florida is massive and a huge problem, however I’m hesitant to compare the two at this point and come to a confusion on virus spread vs. density.
When NY was peaking in early April testing was almost non-existant. If you remember, tests were being rationed like crazy. Even if you have COVID symptoms you weren’t being given a test. Only the most sick and the most vulnerable were getting those.
They’ve done 3,215,185 tests so far in Florida.
New York, for instance, had done 1,182,998 total test by May 11th, at which point they were almost 2/3rd of the way down from their peak on their decline to current situation.
I don’t think there is an argument on the fact that NY peaked in early April - based on metrics across the board - and Florida is likely peaking now.
It seems to me like had testing been as available and prevalent in NY in April as it is today, NY would be way higher than we’re seeing in these charts.
Anyways, in my opinion, we really aren’t going to be able to compare cases accurately between a state that peaked in April vs a state is peaking today.
For more reference…
New York at peak (April 4) was testing about 20k people per day
Florida at peak (let’s say today) is testing about 50k to 60k people per day.
Anyone agree/disagree with this? Definitely open to hearing other’s opinions.
*As always, I’m going to write my disclaimer. I’m not trying to argue for Florida being in good shape. They are not. They failed. However, I’m attempting to add to this conversation with some numbers that may change perspective a bit on the discussion of density vs COVID spread. Please everyone wear your masks, social distance and be careful around those in the high-risk demographic.
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As someone actually in Florida, the same was true for Florida as well. I had 12 friends who had the virus in March, and only 2 of them could get tested early because they work in the health care industry. The others couldn’t find a test to save their lives (pun intended), and one almost died after being on a ventilator for a week.
The rest of my 12 friends could only confirm their illness after the fact when antibody tests became available.
So, in the end, Florida had way more cases of the virus in the early days when the Spring Breakers wouldn’t leave, and when the state government refused to take it seriously. Cases only started to subside when individual communities locked themselves down. When those lockdowns started ending, and tourists started coming back for the cheap hotel rates, etc., cases rose.
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Yeah I’m not saying Florida didn’t have way more cases, but back then positive cases and deaths had a stronger correlation, right?
Because if nationwide, testing was only being given to the most sick, you’d be able to see where the most severe outbreaks were by looking at death counts (since raw case count can’t be trusted due to lack of testing).
Florida death counts in the early days were no where near NY’s and if I’m not mistaken Florida’s population is older and likely theoretically more susceptible. So that I why I personally would assume density does increase severity of outbreak, but really that assumption can’b e trusted bc how the incoming data has changed.
Story about city dwellers moving out to the burbs and beyond…
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I think that this story is about major cities more than it’s about places like Raleigh. It’s VERY easy to have city living in Raleigh, plus be close to nature, and even have access to one’s personal car to take trips away from it.
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