This concerns me because if Garland moves, that likely would mean that the Kings/Garland/Neptunes owners are preparing to lose the entire complex (as in, why would they even bother moving Garland from such a prime location that’s already connected to their other two establishments?)
I would agree with that concern / thought process.
I was asking / hopeful that they were making a play for a sister location / next concept… ?
Highly, highly doubt that. I know Paul and I know he’s anticipating having to move at some point in the future (they don’t own the building), I had always just hoped that day would never come…
I did a trip gen for someone in the neighborhood (total amount of new trips, I subtracted out the existing retail space)
I suggested that if they were really concerned about traffic around the park to ask that the major entrance/exit be located on Fairview as opposed to Bickett (I haven’t seen a site plan so I can speak for whether that already is the case)
I watched a Kimley-Horn presentation last week at an Institute of Transportation Engineers conference last week and they used the traffic numbers on Six Forks around North Hills being essentially flat in recent years as part of their justification to reduce the number of trips to/from Downtown South lol (if I recall they successfully petitioned the city for a 30-35% reduction in trips)
No NIMBY ever says out loud “I will not support any development”. It’s just that there’s always some reason not to support development in their neighborhood. Any development is going to generate more traffic than the junkyard that sits there now. Living in a city involves dealing with traffic. Get over it.
Do you live in 5 Points? And I can guarantee you the neighbors are not going to “get over it” and I will go further to say the end project will not be 48 units nor will there be 100 parking spaces.
Care to take that wager?
I guess it’s always easy to call NIMBYs others until… A redevelopment happens in one’s backyard . I remember you were quick to call NIMBY anyone that would oppose or question downtown south
or more recently those townhouse owners on WF road next to East End Market PD that were fighting over shade issues.
Um yes I’m sure the well-meaning people there will diametrically oppose any project that is not SFH and bristle at anything that might change one of the most expensive neighborhoods in the state. But we’d all be better off if they did get over it
I’m always for development, but I’m very neutral to the Bickett Development. I think the residential portion should be allowed but could care less for the retail aspect. I’d prefer to see the retail shops more along streets that have public transit. This location is half a mile from the 2 and 6 bus which isn’t bad, but it’s not that close. The overall neighborhood is mainly single family homes so until there’s more residential density, I wouldn’t see an overall urge to promote retail or office development at this part. Again I think the residential portion should be allowed which will at least start to increase the density.
I may also not have an overall opinion on allowing retail at this part since I don’t frequent this location and don’t want to create a full new destination. I would like to see existing destinations built or for this to be in more dense transit oriented areas. If it was closer to Nickelpoint/Neuse River Brewing then I’d have a different opinion. If it was closer to Glenwood Ave/Whitaker Mill I’d also have a different opinion as well.
Its already a neat little retail node right there. They branded it as the ‘Arts District’ I think? Could actually become something cool if maybe some of the warehouses get renovated / redeveloped along the frontage road going to Wade Ave. (add in a bike boulevard connected to the Greenway and West Street bike lanes and maybe a pedestrian bridge to Mordecai/Seaboard…)
Yea I was always confused about the West Street extension here. Doesn’t seem like that’s realistic to get over or under Wade or is that supposed to be a signalized intersection??
The study also looked at 3 scenarios for pedestrian bridges. Hadn’t heard much about those since. But I don’t think they looked at extending the Fairview bridge to the end of Haynes St for peds and bikes - which would be the easiest/cheapest? (shortest span and better starting/ending elevations)
I don’t think the pedestrian bridge was ever a serious part of the study. They just threw in a bunch of hypotheticals but it was never considered a formal recommendation.
The rebuilt Wade Av. flyover pretty much makes that idea dead in the water, too. I’m disappointed, too, since this would’ve been a really cool space for more restaurants and local businesses (as well as sensible rights-of-way for BRT so you could get there).
Honestly, I’m just super confused about what’s the real big-picture game plan around Capital Blvd. between Wade and Atlantic because no one seems to actually be following any of the official plans.
Honestly - That entire Capitoal / WF Rd / Atlantic interchange is a mess of confusion. Needs to be redone form scratch, including realigning the various RR lines in the area. Pipe dream I’m sure. But whoever thought of that cluster of an interchange?
Yeah, that WF road that suddenly becomes Atlantic ave on one side and capital blvd on the other is pretty confusing at first.