For that area next to the church, the “compromise” was to allow them to use that section for “loading and unloading” during weddings and such. That area has historically been parking. I wonder if the compromise ends up being every day. Hopefully not.
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I’m pleasantly surprised to see a separated lane along Fall of Neuse all the way to Falls Lake! I’ve always wanted to ride my bike up there but there’s just not a decent way to do it right now that I know of.
Exactly. Bu the map looks like it says there is an existing bike lane on Falls of Neuse.
And of course, Raleigh’s first REAL protected bikes lanes are going in North Hills and not downtown Raleigh.
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I know this is only a short lane, and only on one side of the road, but Blue Ridge Rd. by NCMA has the same arrangement already:
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There’s more room for off-street bike lanes when you get further away from downtown.
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So this happened today. Unfortunately, in the time I spent taking this photo, I watched someone pull off of Peace St and right into this section like it was her own, personal turning lane. The exact thing these bollards were supposed to prevent.
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the problem probably is that there’s a driveway to the left of that photo for the BP gas station………they should just close off that driveway but that’s not a quick/cheap/easy fix.
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Plus there is another driveway like 20’ before that one (which could easily be used for entry and exit)
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Weird use of the space. Don’t get why there’s such a big gap between the bike lane and the curb. Instead, they should have made the separation between the bike lane and the travel lanes wider, thus making the space between the bollards and the curb too narrow for a car to fit into. Obviously, we don’t want the bikes squeezed right up against the curb and being forced to ride over drainage and whatnot, but we also don’t want the lane to be so wide that a freaking car can squeeze into it either.
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and another driveway on Boundary Street too
And my same thoughts @colbyjd3 about the gap but I’m guessing they don’t want to jog the bike lane too much since there is parking next block in front of Oakwood Pizza Box /Jolie since they’d have to bring it out again.
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People are cutting all the way across Person and entering the bike lane / excess street (that nobody is allowed to park in) at the beginning of the 5 bollard set in order to turn on to N Boundary.
Before the bollards appeared, entering this area was common practice for the people who were turning on to Boundary. This behavior was compounded by there being two left turn lanes from Peace to Person St. People in the left of the two lanes on Peace would often cross over into right of the two northbound lanes on Person, pushing people into the bike lane / parking spaces. I have seen sideswipe accidents here and hear horns blaring multiple times a day because of this. So I suppose the folks that were turning on to Boundary just see this as a new VIP lane for them to utilize for their turning pleasure. What I witnessed when I took the picture yesterday was not a one-off thing. My wife and I walked to Standard last night and watched it happen some more both on our way there and back.
Sorry, bike riders, you will not be safe here.
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Have those lanes been painted green yet? If so, then they can also add an interim upright between the southernmost upright on your diagram and the curb to its east. This should be a big enough clue to not enter. Instead of us throwing up our hands in defeat, we should be looking at was to fix it and make help people learn new habits at the intersection.
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with raleigh being more sprawly are some of the northern neighborhoods more dangerous for bicycling? down one have to get on a dangerous collector road to link a route together for shopping, parks or jsut riding to the center of town? if so, is there any talk of linking neighborhoods with short rails to more bicycle friendly thoroughfares??
Yeah, I think the city is trying to plan out future bicycle projects in a way that actually will make sense connectivity wise over the next few years. There obviously will still be bike lanes that don’t exactly make sense where they have to go in concurrent with when streets get resurfaced but in terms of capital projects, hopefully we can create corridors serving all parts of the city.
See map that the city’s bike/ped planner Paul Black put together (solid = existing, dotted = future projects needed to fill in the gaps): https://twitter.com/pablonegro/status/1309256535751655431?s=20
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Watched two cars - one behind the other- nearly slam into these plastic pylons back to back. What is strange to me is that there are still two lanes on Person St that they can turn into, so clearly people are just too used to making unnecessary wide lefts here. This is a car accident waiting to happen
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People have very much become accustomed to taking wide lefts here.
Hopefully, this area gets converted to two-directional traffic again soon. That would alleviate a lot of the issues with this intersection.
The long term answer is 2-way.
The short term solution is… paint. it. all. green!
That visual distinction will communicate extremely quickly that the lane with bollards is not for car traffic.
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