Bike Lanes in and around DTR

They why we need something like tis ill email Johnathan the idea. Traffic and bikers need too co exist also there needs to be a barrier.


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There can also be a separate barrier.

I saw that post and had a similar reaction. People making all sorts of excuses why it was OK to park in the bike lane. Everything from ‘just go around’ to ‘use the sidewalk’ and ‘taking peoples parking spots’, cycling is too dangerous’. etc.

This was on Hardimont Rd and every house on that street has a long driveway and most have garages. Why do they need on street parking? I ride that stretch a good bit and always have to go around cars in the bike lane. And every car I go around is parked in front of a house with plenty of room in the driveway.

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Funny part about that is when people complain that others are parking in front of their yard. I also saw a post on nextdoor where someone mentioned putting out “no parking” signs in the front. Those don’t mean anything haha.

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@Deb I really need to know if this P.O.S. was thrown in jail for his CRIME. Do you have any links to this story?

At least Raleigh has dedicated bike lines. Living out here in the Apex and Holly Springs area and driving around Apex Friendship/Jordan Lake area you see a lot of leisure bicyclists, especially when the weather is nice. I’ve seen some very, very close encounters with people trying to drive around a bicyclist and almost hit the biker or hit the car coming in the other lane.

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Sorry, I don’t think it was in the news, so I had to look back at social media posts. I was mistaken about how the incident occurred. It was on a narrow 2-way street with parked cars and a car coming the opposite direction. The motorist passed the cyclist, who was signaling to him to not pass until the oncoming car passed, so closely that his mirror hit the cyclist’s hand. The attacker stopped and yelled at the cyclist for hitting his vehicle. The cyclist told the motorist he had passed too close and endangered him. The motorist then proceeded to beat the cyclist and threatened to run him over next time.

The short answer is, no, the attacker wasn’t thrown in jail.

The attacker went missing for a period after he was charged and failed to show up at multiple court dates. The court considered jail time but instead gave him supervised probation and ordered him to pay restitution for the victim’s missed work and medical bills (he needed surgery). It took over a year from the date of the attack for sentencing. #justice, or something.

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Not sure where to put this but it looks like a big portion of downtown will have speed limits of 25MPH. The speed limit in downtown Raleigh could soon be lowered to 25 miles per hour

I think this will definitely help make downtown bike able (especially on ebikes). It will definitely help with no right on red.

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Love love love this!!!

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Also would eliminate right on red.

Of course, the livable raleigh NIMBY’s will probably find a way to oppose this. Maybe they’ll quote Ice-T this time.

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Small note on this, the lights on Dawson / McDowell etc are all timed at 25 mph. So people who go faster than that are already punished by having to stop.

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Only if you’re at the front of the cycle. Otherwise you speed to catch up.

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25 MPH speed limits and no right on reds coming to Downtown Raleigh?

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Raleigh City Council will consider approving these changes during their meeting Monday.

If anyone is against it or suggests changes during this meeting, I’m very interested to hear their case. :face_with_monocle:

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ChAnGe iS ScArY.
I say this with complete agreement that the change is a good thing, but, I 100% expect opposition. Definitely very curious what the case will be, and in no way do I expect it to maintain any sort of logical consistency, but I’m honestly excited to find out what they come up with.

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Will increase congestion… Need traffic impact study… pedestrians getting hit is their fault… Whatabouttheshadows… Will increase emergency response times… but then ban bikes from the roads…

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Definitely on board with this! As a novice and infrequent bike rider downtown, it’s quite nerve-wracking riding on downtown streets when cars are wanting to go much faster than you (I try to stay on roads with bike lanes, but that only works so well). If the speed limit were set to 25mph, I think I would feel a lot more comfortable during the times I have to enter a normal lane.

Also, any intersection with regular crosswalk users should absolutely be no right turn on red. And I definitely hope they don’t do it intersection by intersection because that only leads to confusion and excess ticketing due to that confusion.

I do always think “I shouldn’t be allowed to go this fast”, especially when driving up McDowell, but feel obligated to because of the 35mph speed limit.

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Just an anecdote but I FEEL a few drivers are speeding to “beat the lights”. Also, the red light cameras at the Morgan Street intersection are very busy. I hope they can make some soft design changes to really drive down the speed to a max of 25.

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I’m pretty sure the timing is faster than 25 (just went through and about to check again) but what I like about the official speed changing even if just on Dawson/McDowell is the impact it should have in mapping algos for transient traffic through downtown. We should see a drop in traffic just for that reason alone.

EDIT: @atl_transplant I think you’re right, or at least it’s pretty close to 25mph, but that just means if you’re at the beginning of the cycle, you’re not incentivized to drive faster than 25, anyone behind the cycle is driving to catch up, especially if you are a regular and know the walk countdowns and are trying to not get “caught” on a signal turn. I don’t know what a better solution is here but I don’t see the 25 mph speed change having much impact on those going through downtown unless there’s enforcement.

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Speed limit changes without design changes are nothing.
I guess the design change here would be the signals to at least theoretically cap you at 25 intersection to intersection but you’d need wholesale changes to actually keep people at 25.
In this case, the lanes are already narrow, curbs radii are tight so there’s not much you can do quick build wise. The congestion during busy times also helps keep speeds in check.
Big money wise, a few raised intersections, bulb outs for the crosswalks etc can really increase ped safety but on a straight multi lane road like this, design wise - there’s not too much more you can do.

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