I think we’ve discussed this already, it is significantly shorter than 220’. I think that total came from an estimate based on the floor count, but slab-to-slab the Holiday Inn is packed pretty tight.
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I would love to know! And for these websites with height estimates to be properly updated!
Everytime I drive past it I just think it’s gotta be shorter then listed. It’s not a grand hotel so it has very normal sized floor plates and a stubby parking pedestal.
Yep agreed. The crane is going to tower way over it.
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I’m hoping Fayetteville 121 will go alot taller now and add a strong mixed use component to the project wish we could get something like Epic center or a Cordish Company development for that spot just get rid of the whole parking deck and start from scratch
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My guess is 121 has been designed and it’s too late. Maybe they can update the crown to make it taller?
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@ralboi919 I also assume its proximity to the capitol building influences their height limit, even if self imposed. It’s planned to be not much taller than Wells Fargo, which has existed for ~30 years, so they can’t get much pushback for essentially matching its height. But any taller, and gov’t officials and even the public might cry out in defense of the unofficial “nO sHaDoWs On ThE cApiToL bUiLdiNg” rule
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Would that be like 121 Fayetteville “throwing shade”? #dadjoke #I’mhereallnight
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Are you saying there’s no limit in height at all?
No. Read the rest of the posts lol 
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Under the removal of the height cap associated with floors, we could see a 700’+ building in Raleigh’s future, inclusive of a crown. Personally, I’d like to see a building that’s fully occupied commercially with a companion building across the street that’s multistory retail (2 or 3) with several floors of parking on top in support of the tower. I can then imagine a walking bridge from the parking to the tower. I’d rather see this sort of arrangement than just pedestals under occupancy in a single tower.
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Yeah that’s what I thought
I meant as in with the height limit not including floors
As you might know, if you’ve been following, the height limits for 7 stories and above has been removed but they still want to discuss height limits for buildings below 7. This will be discussed at the Jan 28 GNR committee meeting.
http://go.boarddocs.com/nc/raleigh/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=BL3VF48079DD
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That’s a bit overkill if you ask me. Do we really want to see unlimited height 3 story buildings?
Sure. I can’t imagine this being a problem in nearly any case. Also maybe taller apartment buildings…
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Yes, why not??? Haha
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I think the concern would be in a mostly residential area where scale and tapering are legit concerns for aesthetic and quality of existing residents’ lives reasons. But doesn’t this only apply to DX zones?
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I just feel like most new and densely packed neighborhoods like mine are governed by HOAs and are master planned. If I lived in an older neighborhood and the guy next door on a half acre decided to add a third floor to his house, I don’t know that I’d care. Or that this would be that prevalent. I can’t imagine there would be a lot of areas zoned for 3 stories that will suddenly have a 100 foot house tower next to all the normal houses. I’m sure there’s issues I’m not thinking of tho
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Not unlimited. The discussion is about making it a little bit higher. How much higher? That’s the debate as far as I know.
50 ft for a 3 story building is where it’s at now. At nearly 17 feet slab to slab average, how much higher would a 3 story building need to be?
Given what we’ve seen proposed as 4 stories for the corner of Peace and Boylan, we already know that it’s not really 4 stories; it’s 5 stories. I’d say, let’s be honest about what we are doing and call a spade a spade. I’d rather not try to hide behind a sneaky “work around” by claiming a mezzanine level within a unit isn’t a floor in a building. It’s just disingenuous.
Where we have 3 story buildings zoned, it’s usually because the context of the location is transitional to neighborhoods, etc. While it might not seem a like a big deal, this sort of thing is significant if you are in that transition zone, and in particular if you are in a single family house. As someone who is not in a single family house, I don’t have a horse in this race, but I do feel like the sensitivity in these transition areas matters to the overall experience of the city.