Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) in Raleigh

Thanks for digging into this and sharing. Very helpful to look at 3-1/3-2 of the EDAT. Why do you think it get’s less dense? I’d be interested in the why behind that on the Newbern BRT.

Also, we see on western it does indeed get less dense approaching downtoan as it goes from Emerging Urban (orange) to neighborhood (Yellow) to park (Green, Dorothea dix). Is that getting less dense? Am I reading that correctly? I am also not an urban planner :slight_smile: and may be reading that incorrectly. I am relatively new to this forum and love learning with everyone, thanks!

Technically, one of the original BRT plans called from a flyover over Raleigh Union Station before the current configuration. So this wouldn’t be out of nowhere to design such an expansion.

Up to 1/4mi of planned BRT stations, like the captions in Leo’s original screenshot say. This would include the northern part of Pettigrew St.

Remember, though, that the EDAT guide is only a proposal. BRT-tailored TOD overlays are not an official policy that the city’s following, yet. I think the map Leo posted is just a quick sketch of what parcels might be subjected to the overlay rules. We won’t truly know which parcels will really be affected until city staffers start mapping those out this Fall.

You could guesstimate it, though, by comparing the city’s “iMaps” GIS tool and our earlier discussions on the New Bern BRT design.

Because of history. Longtime residents of Raleigh slowly built single-family homes away from downtown in the early-mid 20th century, back when that was the outskirts of Raleigh. Car-oriented suburban developments came up when parts of the Beltline were built in the 1960s.

You can see the different rings of density in the city’s future land use map (basically how the city wants to zone itself in the future), where darker non-green lots are intended for denser buildings.

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Thanks so much! I couldn’t tell if it was 1/4 from a station or the corridor. Really helpful to hear that the staffers will map it out more and that’s when good information will be available.

nice! I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing. That would be really great.

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If you’re talking about the old plans for Union Station, that wasn’t for BRT. There were ideas for flyovers for light rail back when that was still being taken seriously.

i wasnt sure if this is posted in community somewhere but with the New Bern BRT a decent chunk is bordered by Longview, ever rising prices on homes and many acre sized lots (I used to live there), and across new bern ave a County Club area. is there enough open land at the poles or this route for dense, bus riding development? thx i know near raleigh blvd there are multi unit dwellings but I thought the distance from new bern ave would be prohibitive for walking. is the BRT plan more for getting people to the hospital and county bldgs from outside of the new bern corridor? thx

Sorry, I just saw your question. I’m not sure about land for new construction, but the City’s looking into several policies to encourage denser developments near proposed BRT stations. Combine that with the recent liberalization of tiny homes and other by-right mini-developments, and I think your question becomes a moot point.

You can take a look at earlier posts on this thread about the City’s upcoming policies on equitable development around transit (EDAT) to learn more. This topic seems to come up more in the New Bern corridor thread or other chatter about affordable housing, so you might find more info there.

The city’s planners chose HDR as the primary consultant for the Capital Blvd. BRT major investment study! This is the same firm that helped plan Raleigh’s other BRT lines in the early stages.

The city will work with them to develop a scope of work by Dec. 7, when City Council will authorize the City Manager to approve it and start this investigation (which should take 12-18mo).

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Capital Area Metropolitan Planning Organization (CAMPO) is conducting an evaluation of extending the currently planned Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) service beyond Raleigh in Wake County.

BRT service will be amongst the highest value transportation services available to residents of the region. It will be faster and more convenient that other bus services. The extension study is evaluation two extensions; one to the South and East (between Garner and Clayton) and one to the West (between Cary and RTP).

These studies are in very early stages which makes this the perfect time to provide input on what is important in planning these proposed services. There are online surveys requesting public comments available here:

These surveys are open until November 1. Please distribute this information to your communication networks and encourage participation. We working to ensure that the benefits of BRT service extend to the entire community, not only those living along the BRT line.

Please see the attached PDF file for an overview of BRT and the extensions being proposed. I would like to hear a discussion of these two proposed extensions.

BRT extension study - Western and Southern.pdf (1.1 MB)

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There’s a text change in the works for setting standards for streets with busways, and it looks like the city now has a project page for it. Here’s the current timeline.

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New apartment building proposed for the Renaissance Park area reserves space for the future S. Saunders St. extension (and BRT line?):

Good to see this being taken into consideration for new development.

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That’s good to see, though I wish they’d orient the building towards the BRT corridor. Keeping what looks like a recreation area and surface parking right along the Saunders St. extension doesn’t seem to be a great site plan design, especially if the city is looking to turn that corridor into a mixed-use district with retail and whatever else.

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Do they have the extension going behind or in front of the International Food? Or is it too early to tell?

I believe the plan is to redevelop the shopping center.

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Cool idea that Ren Park could be the catalyst area for a mini urban hub.

Technically, the Wilmington Street Extension (as shown in the adopted Southern Gateway Corridor Study from 2014) slides behind AC Market and in front of International Food. The alignment is in iMAPS:

Realistically, there’s not much room for a road around the existing buildings, so both stripmalls would likely be redeveloped. Not a small task!

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nice surface parking lot there. :roll_eyes:

https://twitter.com/digitalsciguy/status/1455297043040194562?s=21 This thread! :oncoming_bus::heart:

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I got to ride this same route last night! An excellent preview to what we can be expecting in Raleigh!

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