Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) in Raleigh

Well # 1 sure was right on the money :rofl:. Could you image if that type of mentality made it’s way into politics? I know scary to think right?

#5 is partially the reason we keep having these stupid conversations. There is a very small percentage of developers who will build affordable housing for humanitarian reasons. They need to be incentivized to do so, and no I’m not referring to the city’s terrible decision to GIVE millions to renovate the SIR Walter into affordable housing.

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WRAL News article:

Here’s how Raleigh’s planned Bus Rapid Transit line will compare to Richmond, Virginia’s service

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I had to turn it off when they started promoting the nimbyism in oakwood :sweat_smile:

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Not sure I saw this posted anywhere yet. Looks like this is shaping up to be a fight with the Oakwood residents. I can’t take the Civil War general cosplayer serious here in this video.

Raleigh rezoning hundreds of properties along first Bus Rapid Transit line (wral.com)

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Thought one of his statements was pretty funny:

“People who live there actually use the buses. They’re going to move them out and move people in to the new places that won’t actually ride the buses.”

“A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transportation.” If we make a good system, it doesn’t matter who lives there (I’d prefer us not to displace the residents that currently live there). If the buses are frequent and fast, I’d much rather hop on a bus and get where I want than have to get in my car and find a parking spot.

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Will this rezoning jeopardize the whole BRT project? or was it the city’s goal after the fact to add density?

That civil war guy or self described “historian” social media is full of this stuff, so he seems to view things from the same side of the fence:

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Yeah, Matthew Brown seems more engaged lately but while I find his historic preservation work to be good, the way he words his comments can come off as elitist.

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Never really get these kinds of people. You are allowed to not like a new building without insulting everyone that does. I can’t wait to dull the place up when it’s completed. We’re going to have a great dull time.

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Yeah I couldn’t believe what the heck he was saying. Must be some sort of clairvoyant to know every. single. person. moving to the area would not ride the bus :person_facepalming:

@Drew I would like to hope and think it won’t but who knows man. After the HB lawsuit I wouldn’t put anything past any of these neighborhood groups. Especially when the lady said something along the lines of fighting this issue with the adjoining other neighborhoods too.

There NIMBYs essentially that’s a red flag thank goodness the rezoning was approved

Why are we cursed with NIMBYs. It so annoying we have to deal with them over and over again. These neighborhood folks think they can dictate the city growth. Like was Raleigh meant to have NIMBY and be some neighborhood surburbia I just don’t get it. It’s annoying me.

To answer your question, it’s not just Raleigh… Most if not all fast growing cities with rising property values are full of NIMBYs. A combination of antecedents are culpable:

  • Property values being propped up by decades of restrictive zoning and home equity financing
  • HOAs and restrictive zoning creating a false sense of stasis in the community
  • HOAs, zoning, and redlining fueling history of classism within residential real estate
  • The “comp” system for home appraisals
  • Cultural values of the American Dream revolving around a fenced in yard and driveway for personal automobile ownership
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im not necessarily defending that guy…i would only ask are the examples of cities ahead of raleigh in population and transit expenditure where similar comments were ‘the people are coming who will ride transit in much greater numbers’ and those people didn’t materialize and the hundreds of millions were then spent on ‘underperforming’ transit anyway??

In my five seconds of googling I found an article from Vox from 2018 on the subject of US cities doing good/bad implementing public transit (rail and BRT). They touch on Denver and Cincinnati as some of the ones spending big and not really reaping the rewards.

I’m sure there’s some newer articles on the subject out there.

Which US cities have good and bad public transportation - Vox

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Anyone know what the status of the New Bern rezoning is? I see on the active rezonings page that the latest update was “PC Committee 5/25,” but I can’t really find anything from the planning commission agendas on it. Wondering when it’ll hit the council so that I can get some folks organized to go speak in support with me.

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It was pulled from that agenda for an unknown reason. I assume it’ll hit their next meeting. :man_shrugging:

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For the time being, I honestly believe that GoRaleigh and the city should start using a transit signal priority system to improve the time frequency of GoRaleigh buses. TSP is a system that allows bus drivers to extend traffic green lights when entering intersections.

It will obvious take a lot of political support but this is needed in order to increase the ridership numbers, revenue, and potentially attract more drivers.

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