Yes. It’s scheduled that day.
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Does ‘blocking sunlight’ count as a ‘fact’?
What is the deadline to sign up to speak for that meeting?
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5 pm Monday prior. https://raleighnc.gov/public-hearings-city-council
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Omg, will these fools go away? Yes TOD matters you just need to ensure affordable housing plus why do they care, don’t they have their wonderful single-family houses to protect?
Council held a ~70 minute work session yesterday on BRT - I haven’t watched yet but stream is here:
Would have loved more focus on this from local reporters instead of the 3 hour public comment period on the Gaza war (which, while important, is not something within the jurisdiction of City Council).
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Starting to watch this now and it opens up beautifully, making it pretty clear that the status quo only produces large, expensive single-family homes in place of smaller older ones.
Also, it shows that we pretty much put it into our comp plan to direct our growth around transit. This equitable piece should now be on council to really drive home and help those that are feeling the negative impacts of TOD, which we need to be honest with ourselves that some people will be.
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Yup, Bynum’s presentation was exemplary.
I also think it really drives home the point that the TOD overlay/rezoning is one of several tools in the toolbox that have to be utilized in sync in order to realize the goal of equitable development around transit - but that undershooting on the amount of housing we’re going to build in this corridor ultimately hurts everyone.
I hope that Council can align on the need for a significant increase in funding for rental assistance and the “cost” recommendations of fully implementing the station area plan recommendations - I think committing to fully implementing all aspects of the plan will help alleviate some of the good faith concerns about the rezoning (understanding that the bad faith concerns from Liveable Raleigh aren’t the main audience here).
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Woah how long has Harrison been in office and still has to be told that that state law prohibits demanding affordable housing?
She should not be there, vote her out. Same with Black they don’t know how government works. Voted in on emotion send them out.
Given that there are going to be 4 BRT lines, which color scheme do you think GoRaleigh should choose for the transit map and line colors?
- Green, Blue, Orange, Red
- Green, Red, Purple, Orange
- Red, Purple, Blue, Green
- Orange, Red, Green, Purple
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If not these color, which ones? I chose these colors based off of the transit maps I’ve seen around the country.
Also, what color should each line be? I’ll start with my opinion:
Blue (Northern Line) - Amtrak connection & Greyhound Station
Green (Southern Line) - 
Red (Western Line) - NC State
Orange (Eastern/New Bern Line) - GO+ Bus is orange
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Unpopular opinion: I dislike all of the options because I don’t think we should be using colors to name our transit lines in the first place.
Using colors for line names is a weird, uniquely North American thing that’s out of step with the rest of the world (where names like the Piccadilly line in London or the 1 metro line in Paris are used). Plus, as Los Angeles and Seattle’s metro systems have learned:
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It’s confusing when color-based systems already exist - such as the different bus operators in the Triangle. The easiest way to tell apart different agencies (GoTriangle, GoRaleigh, GoCary etc.) is by their buses’ colors - and people with limited literacy or English skills rely on cues like this to get around by bus. The last thing those people need are two things that you could call “green buses” that are actually operated by two different city agencies that run in opposite directions.
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It’s not user-friendly for colorblind people. Even if that’s not a case for you, it could still be confusing to remember different colors for BRT lines without a visual aid, or to make it stand out on signs/pieces of writing.
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It gives off unintended associations (lines with primary or fancier colors like a “Gold Line” or a “Blue Line” could be perceived as being better than a “Silver Line” or “Purple Line” named after secondary colors or something that feels “less than”)
- A “Red Line” and “Yellow Line”, in particular, can be problematic because it brings up images of racial segregation by “redlining” or America’s history of excluding Asian-Americans or putting them in concentration camps.
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You’ll eventually run out of options. The ADA requires a certain amount of color contrast for different types of signage. If you want to add more lines and more service over time, it’s only a matter of time before you run out of appropriate names.
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It can be confusing for people who are not from Western cultures. People from different cultures use different words to the same color, if they recognize a difference at all (e.g. Japanese speakers don’t have a native word for “orange” so they have to take more time to awkwardly sound out the English word). This is a big thing that’s well-known in linguistics and anthropology, and it could make for an unwelcoming experience for foreign visitors to the Triangle. Plus, this issue gets worse as more line colors are added.
I’m fine with either numbers/letters (the A-line - single letters to be distinct from GoTriangle express buses) or local names (e.g. the New Bern line). But colors are the one thing I think should be a no-go.
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Hah, never thought of those considerations. It never felt like a huge deal in Boston but I get it. Russian has two different words for dark blue and light blue!
I did have to freeze for a second when some tourists asked me whether they should take the red or the green line in NYC, having always considered them the 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 lines (the answer was “the 2 or the 3, so the red line but not the 1”)
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Yeah this was definitely in the back of my mind when I was typing that comment. I only meant for the visuals of a map for people to differentiate between each line visually, which is important when someone is in a rush. I agree with all of your points and cartography and wayfinding is often an afterthought.
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Red line has racial connotations I’d be careful of that meaning. Maybe red white stripped line to reflect NC State better.
Don’t name the lines after colors, I agree that’s dumb.
However, they probably should be colored on the map. Western is red, because it goes through NC State. Other than that, blue, green, orange, yellow, purple… I don’t think it matters very much which colors are chosen or which line gets which color.
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As a color blind person, I really hope they have don’t name them based on just colors. But if they do, I hope they don’t use both blue and purple; they’re the same color to me.
With only four lines, they shouldn’t need to pick colors too close together on the spectrum.
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Trying to keep the right time to sign up to speak about the BRT clear in my head. Looks like you can sign up starting Jan 15th here.
Here is a good article where I double checked this. Hoping to remember to come back and post a reminder Jan 15th.
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Is this really how the whole process works regarding serious voting and decision making? 2 members were absent so their vote becomes an automatic NO? How can anyone take this serious?
" Interestingly, PC Committee of the Whole (which is a committee made up of the full PC membership) voted to recommend approval of the New Bern TOD Rezoning 6-2. However, 2 PC members that voted in support of the rezoning at the Committee of the Whole meeting on November 29 were absent from the Planning Commission’s final vote that occurred on December 12. Had they attended the December 12 meeting, the vote would likely have been 5-4 in favor of the New Bern TOD Rezoning"
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That makes me feel a little better honestly, I assumed all members voted and that decision was the result. I hope the council is aware of that.
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