Hold on, instead of bombarding everyone with what just looks like groupthink, let’s try to understand where @Boltman and @HardeesBiscuit are trying to come from. If I’m understanding what they (and other people) are feeling, it’s that trying to make a smaller increase in suburban developments do not matter; they only see the urban vs. suburban debate in absolutes.
Even if serious transit investments can encourage the creation of more urban, more walkable neighborhoods, it doesn’t prohibit or put an absolute stop on suburbia from continuing to grow. So if the Triangle as a whole keeps having a net rise in suburban, car-dependent neighborhoods regardless of whether we actually get regional trains, you could say that it becomes a pointless investment.
Going back to the arguments about the Moxy Hotel outside of Glenwood versus SEHSR, a lot of people are pessimistic about serious transit in America, and they don’t care about investments that could benefit their children but not themselves. Throw in the fact that the full project could take several decades to become a reality, and it can feel like real impacts would only happen too far in the future to actually matter.
“If it won’t matter for me anytime soon, what does it matter?” - is that kinda what y’all are thinking?