Cycling on Greenways in Raleigh

Rode from downtown to North Hills along the Crabtree Creek greenway trail a few days ago

Route:

The greenway portion of the ride was great. There was a section of boardwalk that could probably use replacing soon. And there is a gap at the intersection of Crabtree Blvd and Raleigh Blvd where it is not obvious that you are supposed to continue down the sidewalk for a ways until you are back on the trail. There are a number of gaps like this in our greenway system; I think just putting some paint down on the sidewalk sections could really go a long way in terms of wayfinding. Doesn’t help that it’s innacurate on Google Maps (the section below doesn’t actually exist):

Some stretches of Lassiter Mills between NH and the greenway have a bike lane, but not all. Would be good to have a bike lane along the entire stretch. Would be even better to have a separated bike lane; currently there is just a “bike gutter” separated only by a line of paint. Would be even better to have a multi-use path or greenway extension that connects from the greenway up to NH along Lassiter Mill. The future Big Branch greenway will connect from Crabtree Creek trail to the eastern side of NH, but you’ll still have to cross Six Forks to get to the western side

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This is the route I used last time I went up that way. (Ladyfingers is pretty close to North Hills and mileage is round trip.)

The underpass at Wade Avenue and Capital Boulevard is extremely handy but it dumps you out at an unprotected railroad crossing, which isn’t great and since it’s while they’re entering the yard, long trains take even longer to clear the crossing. It also doesn’t have a clear connection on either side, one of the reasons I’m so excited for Smoky Hollow Park and cars don’t really realize it’s there, so are startled by someone looking to cross.

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You’re in luck!

Capital Area Greenway System Sidewalk Decals Project | Raleighnc.gov

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I’m not sure how helpful the stickers would have been on my trip, as they are only a foot wide and will only be applied every 100 feet. Here’s the view from the bike lane as you approach the greenway:

The greenway theoretically exists here, but really for about 500 feet it is just a sidewalk with no indication that it is anything else. You can see about 150ft of the path here (its really just the crosswalks), so one or two stickers would be within my sight lines.

If the crosswalks and sidewalks were painted green here or something it would be obvious, although I’m sure that would be much more expensive. Apparently the whole sticker project only cost $17k. I am not one to let the perfect be the enemy of the good; it seems like a good start. But I’m hoping in the long-term that the greenway connections are made more obvious. I’d like it to be dead simple whether I am still on the greenway or not. I also think that would help get more people using the greenway. You could drive through this intersection on your commute every day and not realize the Crabtree Creek greenway is right there waiting for you!

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Oaks and Spokes just sent out a call to action in support of the Big Branch Greenway Connector. A small group of NIMBY homeowners have been coming to meetings to try to stop construction of the connector.

“So we need people to show up and speak at City Council’s public comment session on Tuesday, October 14 at 7:00 PM AND the Raleigh Parks Board monthly meeting on Thursday, October 16th at 6:00 PM.”

You can sign up to comment here. Let’s not let a few nimbys block a major project that will serve as an essential connection in our greenway network.

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For anyone not following this, here’s an overview of the planned route and why it’s got big potential

The Big Branch Greenway Connector (info page, map) will link up a part of the city currently without greenway connections from Crabtree Creek trail → North Hills → up to Sandy Forks Rd

The route (roughly)

In relation to existing (red is Big Branch, blue is potential future Marsh Creek greenway)

The Big Branch route will connect a number of destinations worth mentioning to the greenways, including:

  • North Hills / Midtown (will run right between NHID and Midtown Exchange)
  • Computer Drive business park (which was rezoned to allow 20 stories last year)
  • Parks (Eastgate, Cedar Hills)
  • Douglas Elementary
  • Gets you pretty close to North Ridge / Sutton Square shopping centers
  • A number of apartment complexes (Aventon Nora, The Lakes, etc)

This will also run right alongside the Wake Forest + Six Forks Rd intersection. Reminder of the city’s vision for the future of that area:

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Thanks for the heads up on this! I just signed up to speak. I live/work in this area, so this is super relevant to me. It will be my first time speaking at a council meeting, so hopefully I’m coherent :grimacing:

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We won’t be in town but I hope we get a good showing in GREEN shirts for this city council meeting as well! Please mark your calendars and show up to support this very important city amenity!

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What came of this Tuesday?

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jared of oaks and spokes spoke, for one

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There were ~8 people who spoke in favor and ~2 who spoke against.

I just watched the parks board meeting from last night and they approved of segments 1A and 4. They went back and forth on segment 1B, but decided not to endorse any particular route.

I believe city council votes on Tuesday?

Edit: It looks like the presentation to the city council is on Nov 4.

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Pictures from my ride on sunday morning. Crabtree and walnut trails, and some through umstead. Wet from the rain the night before. A bit muddy in places. But a fun ride. I love the fall colors on the greenway.

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Where is that bridge? Never seen that before

It’s the new section of Crabtree Creek Greenway, heading up towards Duraleigh Rd.

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Great Fall shots! :leafless_tree: :maple_leaf: :fallen_leaf:

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City Council voted in favor of segments 1A, 1B, and 4 of the Big Branch Greenway today with a vote of 5-2. :partying_face:

Timestamp: https://youtu.be/ZAUURHmNnrs?t=9867

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The Anderson Heights folks were out NIMBYing today against expansion in their neighborhood. I watched a bit of that in the public comment section of the meeting. Does this include or exclude them?

Segment 1B is the section that runs through their properties.

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I will say that those folks were throwing anything and everything at the wall to see if it would stick.

Interesting discussion. REALLY hope all things align here over the next - checks timeline of planning / construction - GULP, ten years to bring this whole thing together….I’m not holding my breath - too many hands involved, trade offs and the ever-so-common pitfalls of escalating budgets around negotiating access / easements in this one. ‘A Greenway to Nowhere’ someone called it - hmmm….I say Kane gets everything zoned to 40 at North Hills forever if they pony up for the bridge across 440.

Because that bridge is the $$$ that concerns me the most as an impediment to completion.

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