Density / Urban Sprawl

Count again! That’s way more than 12.

Ah, I stand corrected. My recount took it to 20. Whats is yours?

That’s what I got as well. That’s some Texas sized number of lanes!

1 Like

This is Florence, SC. To be fair, the exit on I-95 has been there since the 1960s but it was rebuilt to accommodate the volume of vehicles.

1 Like

that Florence Bucees is so insanely business every time I go by. I will never stop at that one again, the traffic was just a nightmare, and the stop was way to long. I wonder if they are killing South of the Boarder.

I think South the Border is hanging on by a thread!

4 Likes

I’m honestly surprised that place exists at all. Even as a kid in the 80’s, it looked very dated. We used to drive by that place and wonder how it was ever successful. Never did stop there.

SOTB began to decline in the 1990s. Long before Buc-ee’s.

It’s definitely on the long slow decline. I have been driving by it at least twice a year for decades now, and each time it just looks more empty and more worn out.

1 Like

I stopped at South of the Border like ten years ago on the way down to Disney and it was like stepping onto the set of The Walking Dead.

3 Likes

I’ve never stopped because they used to slap a bumper sticker on your car whether you wanted it or not. I am presuming that they aren’t “giving those away” anymore!

1 Like

No, they stopped doing that. We use to stop on the drive from Ala to Southport when our daughter was little. The ice cream was great, but it was always weird to be about the only folks there.

I haven’t stopped since the 70’s because it has the feel of a Steven King movie - like if I stop there I might not be ever getting to the Border. :skull_and_crossbones:

1 Like

It does give those vibes. The only thing that I like about South of the Border is the “You’ve never Sausage a Place” billboard. It cracks me up every time!

3 Likes

Ultra-dense suburban housing (10 homes per acre), represents the worst of both worlds. It achieves a level of density that clashes with the vision of ‘ideal suburbia’ while still maintaining a car-centric lifestyle. At least in older subdivisions, there was a sense of space and character.

The mentality of ‘I will never share a wall with someone’ results in homes being separated by a mere feet. This not only creates a soulless and monotonous streetscape but also fails to provide meaningful separation or privacy.

I can only imagine these neighborhoods having plenty of Sandlot-style adventures, with residents constantly retrieving their errant balls from the neighbor’s yard!

6 Likes

Maybe before it gets torn down they can make a horror movie there?

2 Likes

This is essentially what I grew up in. It’s clearly the worst of both worlds.
In fact, here is my actual childhood neighborhood. I’d say that my hood was even a denser example of car dependent suburbia.

Are we talking about Oakwood?

It might be a fun exercise to see if folks can guess exactly where that is? With AI and Google, it shouldn’t be too difficult.
One hint: That dashed red line shows the boundary between 2 different municipalities. So, I’m expecting the answer to include both cities.

Los Gatos or San Jose.

But that neighborhood is functionally Oakwood with different trees. I randomly picked 417 Hershner, it’s a 60 year old house on 0.15 acres that costs 2 million dollars.

1 Like