I agree. Maybe it will look slightly unbalanced for a while, but if we get 40 story towers on the south end of downtown, and 40 story towers on the north end by Kane and in the Zimmer parcel, then we can start filling in between them. Maybe even get the 40 story limit removed. #vision
I just hope they actually maximize these two fayettville parcels. If the city is finally going to release both of these, we need something special on each of them. Imo, they are arguably the two of the three best parcels in downtown along with N&O site which IMO is going to get underutilized.
I also hope whatever goes in optimizes the pedestrian experience in addition to redefining the skyline.
Also keep in mind we could one day see some monsters on the Lincoln Theatre lot (WHICH I’M ONLY OK WITH SO LONG AS LINCOLN IS PRESERVED AS-IS) which would be only a block away.
Technically with a Planned Development zoning you can have whatever height/floor count you want/can get approved. I think the current challenge to better than 40 or 500’ range is fire protection as I understand it. I’d like to understand that limitation better.
NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) define highrise buildings as buildings 75 feet or greater in height measured from the lowest level of fire department vehicle access to the floor of the highest occupiable story. As I understand it anything over 7 stories is treated pretty much the same no matter if it is 10 stories or 50 stories. So I am not sure if that limitation has anything to do with fire protection.
Checks on the forum and sees 40 new posts. Hmm, what, is that dumb 9 story Nash finally starting or something?
Oh, a 500 room hotel may be in the works? Well then, finally something cool in the hotel category.
I hate this opinion of a “balanced skyline”, we have an opportunity to build to 40 stories with no height limit on our “Main Street” and now folks are worrying about some cartoonish looking metropolis happening where the tallest building is in the center. Look at Boston’s skyline, it’s an awesome skyline with random skyscrapers spread out and I love visiting. Tokyo is another example. If it makes sense to build it high build it high, don’t think of stupid unbalanced skylines that have nothing to do with demand, projections, etc.
The world is not SimCity. Damn the number.
Open those parcels up to development and let’s see what we get.
Better than parking lots - which don’t show up in your perfectly theorized skylines…
Pulling height south (and north) of the core is the natural order of things to get a point where the market realities might see some of these leftover ’ sweet spots’ go as high as some on this site squeeee about.
Not seen sim city for many many years I had first version, do not recall every going to 2. Would kick it off in morning and go to work for day. When got back would check to see what kind of disaster my city have turned into - LOL
Won’t be sure until further renderings come out. But, yes it appears that there are two hotels sandwiched together. In this case, west will be one brand with windows facing towards Downtown. The other will be facing East Raleigh. And, there may be a vertical separation slicing down through the project to prevent cross-traffic between Home2 Suites and Tru guests. The back of house operations are probably shared, though.
That being said, I’m suddenly being reminded of the class separations between the First Class and Second Class accommodations on the Titanic. And, we all remember how well that worked out. Right?
But, all kidding aside. It lets Hilton offer two different accommodation models on one property. They’ve done it before with their hotel within a hotel concept - remembering the Waldorf-Astoria and Towers.
I noticed Clancey & Theys at the future site of Homewood Suites/Hilton Garden Inn Monday morning. It looked like they had fencing on a trailer and were possibly getting ready to plan for demolition. Maybe we’ll see some movement here soon.
