Yeah we’re trying to do that, but pour current transit plan is too weak. And we have to many unconfident people who been in this area too long and have been in power too long who think they can control this area and they need to go especially, the NCGA that why we need the Census Projections at 500,000 so we can remove them from the process, and skip over them and they can’t do sh*t about it!!!
I really like this conversation about connectivity to Downtown proper. Each frontage in DTS will need to be carefully considered. Example: Will doors of buildings open towards S. Saunders or to an internal street? Will adequate space and attention be given to bus routes and stops?
I think North Hills particularly gets this wrong in its relationship to Six Forks Road and to Lassiter Mill Road. Cameron Village even with a particularly suburban layout focused around parking does a much better job of being walkable. Getting this details right in DTS will help make the physical and psychological connection to Downtown Proper.
This article from strongtowns elaborates on some of these points:
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A bit of bad news? Or just politics?
Can you quote out or copy/paste the important parts of that article?
It’s paywalled so only subscribers can read it.
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I won’t “steal” but:
“Our overall impression is that Kane has walked away from the negotiating table with ONE Wake, and is instead pursuing a series of discreet deals in private, and in doing so is keeping everyone else in the dark of what’s being offered and to whom,” according to a letter that ONE Wake sent to the Raleigh City Council this week. “We feel this calls for us to make our position public to ensure that the Raleigh City Council and all residents of our city know exactly where ONE Wake stands.”
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Nor will I, but one quote is fair use: The leader of One Wake says: “And we just certainly think that a project of this scope, this size, should certainly be able to address affordable housing and also wages. Ensuring that women and minority contractors are included in the bargain.”
They want Kane to guarantee 20% of the housing be affordable, and that businesses pay $20 min. wage.
They are worried about displacement, gentrification and flooding.
Also so comments about everyone Kane or his company gave money to during the election recuse themselves from a vote.
For a group that organized in October of this year, they are sure determined to make Kane achieve their goals.
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I think it’s pretty safe to say that Kane and One Wake are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. This isn’t likely to end well.
I don’t see Kane giving into these demands, especially since this project doesn’t displace anybody. Certainly it’s going to elevate property values nearby, but One Wake would have a much stronger position if they were actually bulldozing current housing stock.
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Gaylord pointed out that it is possible for a developer to commit future tenants to anything, such a min. wages. I agree, One Wake would have a much stronger hand if this were developed land, and folks were being forced out. But it isn’t and they are not, so I am not sure what leverage, moral or otherwise, they have.
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The moral is the fact that people will be displaced due to increased housing costs
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And Kane Realty’s partisan behavior to them puts the cherry on top because it shows that disadvantaged people are not in Kane’s best interest
If Kane gives up on this property the city/county should use this opportunity to buy this property for the possible PNC arena replacement.
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I think they should put it where the original MLS stadium was proposed to go. It’s closer to downtown and could change that area of bland government buildings.
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I for one won’t be upset if Kane throws in the towel on this and focuses his attention on downtown proper.
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This is on barren land. Not even that much residential nearby. Will take decades to develop. No one is getting displaced anytime soon. Probably never.
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Kane should ignore them, this project would have spawned so much commerce, jobs, business and tax revenue for decades to come. We just approved a housing bond in this election, now we are going to chase away this guy for some BS, this is what AOC did to Amazon in NYC, dumb, dumb, dumb. These groups are always one way, it’s never a two way street.
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Why would this be bad news??
I have never heard of ONE Wake but it appears to be a small group of religious institutions with a mission that maybe, kind of includes affordable housing but now seems really focused on downtown south. I think Kane has an obligation to work in good faith with the city and the properties neighbors but he can’t get into a detailed negotiation with every fly by night advocacy group that comes around… and when he doesn’t…they say he walked away? I don’t have access to the article so would love to know more but my assumption is that they did not have much space at the negotiating table in the first place.
Honestly, I would not be surprised if the fine people at Livable Raleigh were not somewhere working in the background here.
Also interesting that a grass roots Wake County advocacy group has a Durham mailing address.
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Exactly. There is no one getting displaced. And how can developing a brown field site be gentrification?
Flooding is a real concern, but can be addressed with proper civil engineering design.
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And a Durham attitude. Every derelict piece of property is a beautiful neighborhood, and development should only be charity minded or not at all.
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ONE Wake clearly anti-Downtown South and NIMBY no doubt about it!!!
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Haha funny while the only way I’m against this cause downtown south needs to include a bid for a pro-baseball (MLB) ir pro-soccer (MLS) this brings great value and development to our city!!! It need to look like crown jewel not some rich-looking affordable housing neighborhood!!!