Fayetteville Street Developments and Vitality

If we can’t even afford shade this project is doomed already.

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It’s not really a matter of affording it. It’s more of a matter of how long it will take to implement. It’s just advantageous that the non-permanent shading structures are both more affordable and will be available quicker. It also allows more opportunities since the item was already budgeted.

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I see string lights. That was my idea. I hope it happens, so I can continue to take credit.
:bulb::bulb::bulb:

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I don’t get it.

People complain tall buildings create shadows and say NOOOO!!!

But we need shade downtown on the street with the tallest buildings…

I swear if I hear a NIMBY complain about it being too sunny downtown!!!
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Recommendations and discussion about improvements for Fayetteville Street.

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Agreed. I’ve seen other cities put tents in the middle of the street facing toward the sidewalk. This helps activate the sidewalk and permanent business, as well as provides space for a few larger tents or activities.

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Quite a few people were out and about during the lunch hour. I already see where seating was added with umbrellas. I don’t remember seeing them before. Now if we can just add some restaurants within the plaza that will be open in the evening, or some shops to draw people before and after the lunch hour, City Plaza will definitely have some balanced activity. Realistically I think Fayetteville Street, more specifically City Plaza, is doing good with what it has. Could it have more activity? Definitely; It just needs more than lunch restaurants. Once Sir Walter opens, I’d be curious how the area around it will be.

On a separate note, I’m not liking the ending design of Capital Square. The windows look really tall and weird. Only an opinion which could vary among people.


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I wonder why the video doesn’t show up on the forum like mine usually do. :confused: Thanks for sharing!

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Fixed. I think adding extra characters after the url throws it off.

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I gotta imagine you’re alone on this one haha - I’d take another 5 buildings like Capital Square over another 5-over-1 Texas Donut, or another squat glass box on top of a parking deck.

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That Midtown Plaza development kinda reminds me of what the city was hoping for at Smoky Hollow.

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Wow, I haven’t seen this before. This would have been awesome and would have completely changed the area.

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Most of that vision is yet to be developed. Only the central core has already been developed. There’s still more to come.

I was mainly talking about the central focus of the bike route as like an extended urban plaza. Kinda lost with the way smoky hollow is an inward facing mega block. It’s fine the way it is, just not the ideal ‘city study proposal’ way is all.

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What we do have is a pair of better protected bike lanes that are vastly superior to what most of Raleigh has. Could it better? Absolutely. Could the Smoky Hollow development be better? Absolutely (and I’ve made plenty of comments about it being inwardly facing). I suppose that I am trying to look at this as moving in the right direction with hopes and participation to make it better as it grows and matures.

I just can’t unsee it. These tents are facing the wrong way!

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Lol what? Aren’t they facing the street that people are walking down?

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I was thinking about how much better it would be today. Too. More space on the sidewalks, you don’t have to turn your head over and over again to see the things on both sides.

One good thing about Artsplosure I’m not sure anyone noticed or mentioned: no food trucks. I enjoy the food, but the constant sound of gas engines just gets way too loud.

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