Five Points, East End Market, & Raleigh Iron Works

I just noticed this grade-level crossing. Idk if they could do something here.

I took the new greenway that runs along Ratchford drive on a run the other day. It’s definitely not very direct considering you have to go all the way back to Raleigh Blvd just to get on the greenway. From the Capital/Crabtree intersection, there’s no shoulder or sidewalk under the bridge. I’d love to be better connected to Five Points one day.

Do you know what they plan on doing about sidewalks for the bridge on Atlantic? There’s currently sidewalks at the top of the bridge but no sidewalks leading up to it. I heard they’re painting unprotected bike lanes across so maybe this will be deemed a “multi-use path.”

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Going vertical!

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Next phase of this “Budleigh East” development (former Country Club Homes) has a site plan review posted.

https://community.dtraleigh.com/t/the-raleigh-wire-service/748/1393?u=orulz

171 units. It’s a 4-story texas donut layout with generally uninspired architecture, mostly brick. The unit mix is quite a bit different than I’m used to seeing, though:

88 1br
63 2br
20 3br

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Targeting families it looks like. Even if that was plopped in the burbs that’s quite a bit 3 bedroom units.

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Don’t mind the generic look; just happy to see some more density in that area. Could do with less parking, but that’s always going to be one of my complaints. Should drive more foot traffic to the local businesses across the street (such as Idle Hour), so that will be nice.

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Relevant for this thread as well. (click the down carat to expand the preview)

:shushing_face: dont tell the neighborhood cause they would :poop: a :brick:

… subdivision plan for 18 townhomes on 4 house lots on sunrise…

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Drove down Atlantic this morning. Don’t have pics, but progress is coming along nicely on this site.

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I lived at 1519 sunrise for a couple years (the house between this development and the self storage), this should have less friction getting approved compared to the storage center. I’m still in shock that got the approval to build.

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Yea, I’m not thinking too much significant about those houses - the complaints will prob be about traffic. And kinda curious I guess the owner of 1529 sunrise wasn’t willing to sell because that would’ve been a good candidate for redevelopment as well and probably could’ve added 5 or 6 more units.

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The area all around the tracks has a lot of potential. The Junction at Five Points, Neuse River and Nickel Point are nice additions. There are also some prime renovation opportunities for other warehouses for a creative developer. It’s not radically different inventory than the Pre-Iron Works complex and offers great views of the city.

Of course, it would be nice if that was a light rail station where Norfolk Southern is currently at some point in fantasy land :slight_smile:

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Something that is now allowed due to the TC-5-20 Missing Middle Text change.

The zoning for this area is R-10. Under R-10, only about 13 townhomes would be allowed without the text change. With the 18 townhomes, the density is now 12.85/acre. With the 4 homes, it looks like it is currently about 2.85. I’m interested to see what the finished product would be.

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I do like small scale infill redevelopment like this but I’d rather see something a little more intentional here with (eg) a new street or pedestrian walkway punched through from Bickett to Sunrise.

Wish the city could take a little more active role in planning stuff like this rather than just letting chaos reign. Planning for, and encouraging, density and infill redevelopment in traditionally SFH neighborhoods rather than just getting out of the way and letting developers run the show.

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I agree, to me the city seems to say “well we changed the zoning laws, the rest is up to yall!” and completely taken a step back. i like that charlotte seems to actually care about the neighborhoods throughout the city, rather than focusing on just the fastest growing parts.

This is about as intentional as you can get with these properties. The driveway for the storage would make more sense to connect to Bickett. This townhouse development wouldn’t have this option unless they grabbed the lot on Bickett. It’s still possible for a future pedestrian connection if that property is grabbed.

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I guess what I mean about “intentional” is to look at the bigger picture than one parcel, one development, one assemblage.

At one point in time, the city’s comprehensive plan called for a street connecting across Bicket, Sunrise, Carson, Gavin, and Pershing, and now that’s gone. That could make redevelopment happening in this area so much better by reinforcing the street grid, but instead, it was removed from the comprehensive plan at some point - and the city has seemingly abdicated all actual responsibility to “plan” for a denser city.

At least we aren’t saying no to all densification anymore, but we’d wind up with a more functional city if the city would step up and actually plan for it.

I get that taking a neighborhood, and planning for a new street that would go in a spot where a house is today, could be controversial - but if you’re taking the step of busting through the sacrosanct notion of single family zoning, you really kind of need to do this too, or else you’ll wind up with quadruple the density, without improved walkability to go with it.

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I think really the only place a connector street could go would be at 1614 Bickett. Would been nice to connect Carson to Gavin/Pershing as well.

Having read that recent Raleigh Mag article, and having just passed by the Iron Works development again yesterday to see the existing warehouses further renovated (one of them almost complete with siding) and the rebar getting built up for the 1st apartment building - I gotta say this project is the one I’m most excited about and it’s not even a close game. I truly feel like - especially once Phase 1 is fully built out and the pedestrian bridge over Atlantic is installed - that this will be the MOST transformative project built in Raleigh in years… and then with the connection to Dock 1053, and the East Market development just on the other side of that - this area will be Raleigh’s legitimate DESTINATION district. Dock 1053 already has one of my favorite and IMO Raleigh’s coolest yet most underappreciated art gallery/experience with Glas - but with the huge mix of retail, dining, drink, and (hopefully) new entertainment options included in Iron Works and eventually East Market, plus the huge increase in permanent residents with all the new apartments, the whole area will be swimming with activity. I am so excited to see what becomes off all of this…

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Plus the renovations to the three Wicker Drive/ Big Boss warehouses. Haven’t heard about that project in a while but hopefully its moving forward soon?

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I knew there was one more recently announced warehouse reno - do you have a link to that one?