Five Points, East End Market, & Raleigh Iron Works

Yep, it’s the development equivalent of the double garage in front of a ‘beautiful rehabbed home’ and sadly more the norm than exception. The American Dream is a Nightmare kinda thing…
Yet another massive blank deck wall detracting from the aesthetics of place. Murals are lipstick at best.

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The site renderings are a looong way up - any inkling of whether they might at least put up some kind of screening?

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I was wondering that too, but I didn’t see anything in the renderings that shows this side.

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That sounds strategic, and likely that there’s no plan for lipstick.
:lipstick:

That is an interesting point. What would you have done differently?

The site renderings are a looong way up

Linked for your convenience :slight_smile:

Pity but not surprising that the painted red steel trellis got so spindly compared to the renderings. :laughing:

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I would have site planned it differently without an open face of the garage facing Atlantic Ave. Why couldn’t they just reposition it and wrap the garage with apartments facing Atlantic?

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Yeah I see what you mean. I guess then the garage would be facing the internal street. I guess an alternative would be fully wrapping the deck with apartments so that no face of the garage is exposed, but then you have the added cost of fully ventilating the deck (among other concerns). But fully wrapping the garage also means the entire footprint is wider and maybe it doesnt fit…

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I’m assuming the developer would rather have a bland parking deck side not facing the interior of their project, which they’re trying to make look nice. Most people except for us on here don’t actually care about or notice the side of a parking deck when going by it.

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You could poll 100 fandoms on the street. 99 wouldn’t care or even understand what you’re asking. Until the city adopted s into the UDO , it’s not fair to expect the developers to do something almost everyone doesn’t care about. And even then, I’m sure it’ll start with just the Downtown Core.
Are there US cities besides New York and Washington that heavily regulate things like this?

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Funny observation but true. You can learn some good stuff on here and it makes sense. You could also learn some bad stuff that makes no sense. If you love Monday night quarterbacking then you found your spot. The city is at a tipping point as far as the build rules for houses and lots. I could tell you what happened to my neighbor who got super screwed by the layering of new rules but they don’t want their business on these screets yo. But you will start hearing about it more and more.

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I disagree; everybody who is not visually impaired will notice the parking deck, and that it is ugly. Maybe it won’t rise to the front of their minds, though. Certainly, even fewer people will realize or think about how it could/should have been done differently. But having a big, blank, lifeless parking deck facing the public street like that makes a (negative) impression on everyone.

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Even if, is it not better than the realistic alternative of having the deck facing the public space? Assuming the constraints of the site made it either or, who cares about how the people zooming by at 50 mph see the deck. They’re just passing by.

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@atl_transplant @orulz I agree with you both :man_shrugging:

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I agree with them both as well. I think both valid. Most people don’t drive by a blank ugly parking deck face and think about how it’s blank and ugly, it just generates a subconscious negative experience. It certainly doesn’t promote the development it’s serving.

Now, would painting a mural on it make the development more noticeable and desirable, or just bring attention to the massive parking deck and ultimately be negative?

Of course there are more desirable options like a living wall which is not $0 maintenance, but would provide a more pleasant visual, and make it known the development cares.

my 2 cents :heavy_dollar_sign:

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Mural? heck, why not massive billboards? We get some creative advertising, maybe, and the developer makes extra money!! :nerd_face:
Seriously, is there an ordinance that bans billboards on the side of parking decks? Asking for a friend.

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Before the L Apartments were built and only the Wake County Court Parking was standing, the city reached out to NC State’s textile school and had students make these tapestries to cover the deck. You can find cheap or nearly free alternatives to achieve this, if they care.

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I’m excited about Jaguar Bolera. Been wanting some bar/restaurant entertainment options and this one seems like it’ll be pretty well done.

I had to google ‘Duckpin Bowling’ bc I’ve honestly never heard of it.

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It’ll likely be hugely successful, at least until the entrepreneurial figurehead departs again just before its bankruptcy like he did with its predecessor Punch Bowl (Drunk) Social…

From the article, maybe he ‘gets’ Raleigh as an Austin of 10-20 years ago : “When I look at markets, I think to myself, ‘Would I want to move there?’” Thompson told Axios. “Raleigh is great. There’s a clear migration of people there to take technology and life science jobs.”

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In all fairness, the pandemic is what caused his former company’s bankruptcy, not like he personally had anything to do with that.