Interesting comparison video about Raleigh vs Charlotte. I think the discussion about each city’s “brand” is really interesting and pretty on point IMO.
Clickbait title but she makes some fair points, although stopping by for a day is not at all representative of what any city actually feels like. For example why are you saying that Raleigh’s suburbs feel so different from each other while Charlotte’s all seem the same…the suburban neighborhoods like Dilworth, NoDa, Plaza-Midwood, Myers Park, etc all feel very different from each other, and the suburban towns like Belmont, Concord, Davidson, Kannapolis, Matthews, etc all feel very different as well. And obviously the Triangle’s universities are well known and highly respected from a national level but why are we including schools like UNC-CH, Duke, etc in the Raleigh list when they aren’t in Raleigh, while leaving off smaller universities such as Davidson, Winthrop, and Wingate from the Charlotte list?
I think the biggest thing she didn’t focus on was the unique arrangement we have in the Triangle where we have 2 cities in essentially the same area. That’s a very different dynamic than Charlotte. Yes there’s some distance between the 2 downtowns, but neither city is just their downtown. In some spots, you can walk from Raleigh to Durham simply by crossing a line. To me at least, if not the census bureau, Raleigh and Durham are essentially 2 nodes of the same city. I’m in both Durham and Raleigh almost every day. That’s quite the difference versus being in Charlotte/its suburbs. So it’s fair to include Duke from that perspective.
Interesting video to watch. Thanks for sharing @nickster
Yeah, I guess my thing is I realize she is a Realtor, so by all means take a day/weekend trip and explore other cities to share with your followers. But don’t try to come across as an expert and compare which city is “better” if you don’t really know anything about the city you’re comparing. Seemed like the whole video was just a bunch easily accessible basic facts about both cities with a couple of random interviews thrown in.
I’m a Realtor too but I don’t understand why you wouldn’t even mention the hottest areas from each city instead of just walking down one street in downtown. Like what about North Hills/Midtown? South End? The Village District? NoDa? There’s a reason those neighborhoods are so desirable, and ignoring that doesn’t reflect well on the agent in this sort of video.
Behold a train station worse than Charlotte Amtrak Station:
The only service is a ticket booth in a garden shed. zgorzelec miasto station.
i can say that when i lived in north ridge villas my dad had a commute of two miles straight down falls of neuse via bus…easy peasy and he loved it. mom had to go via no. 2 falls of neuse to meet a carpool ride at north raleigh Hilton before the north hills development took down the cheapo apartments there to go to capital blvd near crabtree blvd. people can work things out for less problematic commutes. semi suburban isn’t always disaster.
RDU is considerably larger than Nashville by almost every metric. The Triangle itself is technically the most undercounted metro in the US. Just think. Wake county alone is the largest county in the southern United States outside of Texas and Florida!!! We need a much more sufficient and sophisticated planning planning system.
I supoose, Raleigh and Charlottes urban area is a much more comparable metric IMO. They are both roughly the same size… However, Charlottes planning system is much more mature than Raleigh. We could definitely learn a few things about becoming a major metro…
BAN OAKWOOD AND MORDECAI MEETINGS FROM MEETINGS FOR A START!! LOL.
If the feds merged Raleigh-Cary metro with Durham-Chapel Hill we be even more viable
Only if we merged Raleigh-Cary MSA with Durham-Chapel Hill MSA we be even more viable I guess will have to wait until 2025, can’t believe we’re almost halfway done with the decade. Just crazy!
The Triangle’s CSA is not considerably larger than Nashville’s. It’s very slightly larger and growing more rapidly, but the two areas are statistically very similar.
While we await the July 2023 estimates, here are the CSA estimates from 2022:
Triangle: 2,190,786
Nashville: 2,180,071
These estimates do not reflect any changes coming to the MSAs and CSAs that add/subtract counties, and it’s true that Nashville takes more land to reach its number than the Triangle does: resulting in the Triangle being more densely populated at the CSA level.
Nashville benefits from having its energy centered on one city while we all know that the polycentric nature of the Triangle makes creating a brand for the metro (and Raleigh in particular) a bit more challenging.
As for Wake, expect it to jump at least 5 spots in population ranking this decade by mostly taking out shrinking counties in the rust belt while likely being jumped by a rapidly growing suburban county in the Dallas Metroplex. Charlotte will continue to grow as well and trend upward by jumping many of the same counties that Wake passes, but Mecklenburg will not challenge Wake for the population lead in the state.
Was just looking at another page under their CLT USA forum. They have a few nice things to say about Raleighwood. I still don’t understand all the rivalry, but wanted to post something more positive on this thread.
I have always felt that Charlotteans are generally more unaware of what is going outside of the QC than they are malicious towards Raleigh. Especially currently, as there is so. much. development. going on in Charlotte right now that it’s getting hard for even the main insiders to keep track of, let alone the more casual observers. For a while we had projects getting held up because there weren’t enough tower cranes in the Charlotte region to handle so much development.
Isn’t this the same city that decided it wanted an outdoor hockey game because the Carolina Hurricanes hosted one in Raleigh? Doesn’t sound like inattention, more like lack of originality.
Outdoor MINOR LEAGUE hockey game lmao
Are we pretending that the Hurricanes were the first team at any level to host a hockey game outdoors? In the NHL alone, multiple cities that don’t even have NHL teams hosted outdoor NHL games before Raleigh did lol.
It’s that Charlotte announced their first outdoor hockey match 2 months after Raleigh hosted the Winter Classic.
Sidenote: I saw where Charlotte landed a professional rugby team. Pretty cool for the Queen City, hope it is successful.
Hopefully, Tepper doesn’t own them too.
I have not seen anything to indicate that the City of Charlotte had anything to do with the outdoor game. And I can almost guarantee you that those involved had it planned out well in advance of the announcement, but wanted to see how an outdoor NHL game in a nearby city, with an extremely similar climate, post-Covid, played out, prior to finalizing everything.
Basically nobody watches minor league hockey, and if Charlotte leaders were actually that desperate then they would have tried to pull the Hurricanes to play at Bank of America stadium. Not a minor league team at a different minor league team’s stadium lol.
Raleigh Iron Works vs. Camp North End. Ok, go.
I’ve never heard of it.
On brand response.
As it stands today, if you include Dock 1053 with RIW, you could maaaaybe argue they are in the same tier of project, with RIW closer to the lower edge and CNE at the top peering into the next tier. At full build out Camp North End will demolish RIW, it’s a 2 million square foot redevelopment bringing more than 2,200 residential units.