Future of Glenwood South

We find ourselves in a hilarious predicament where these homes are fought tooth-and-nail to keep:

While these are removed with the stroke of a pen:

Where’s the uproar over kicking out the residents of 115 Boylan to be replace with only office space?
Where are the residents of this home going to find another similar rental property in Glenwood south?
What exactly is the difference? The location? The assumption you know the residents income level?
Or the “get off my grass” neighbor who has too much to say?

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I’m honestly surprised there’s no historic overlay around these houses, and I think that is your reason why: we, as a city, have not decided (yet?) that the pretty houses on Boylan St. south of the current Glenwood-Brooklyn historical overlay district are so meaningful that we should legally force them to be kept around.

Well, that and your usual checklist of questions to see how problematic it would be to displace someone from their home, like whether you’re dealing with a rented home or whether you’re taking advantage of people who you know from history that they’ll have a harder time fighting your claims on even ground for reasons outside of your own.

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As for these 2 buildings, I know that the brick one hasn’t been used as residential for decades. I am not so sure about the blue house, though its elevation suggests that it’s carved into at least 2 pieces with 2 front doors.

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Third paragraph from the article :
“The request would also remove the properties from the North Boylan Neighborhood Conservation Overlay District, according to filings with the city.”
-Like I was saying with the stroke of a pen, of course assuming it passes.

Also the property at 115 Boylan has 3 residential units inside, assuming at minimum 3 people and possibly more live inside. Are we not playing by the same rules thrown at the developer who wanted to bring more housing to Bloodworth St? How about we use the same quote from their denial of those town homes and see how it applies here:
“would facilitate the replacement of naturally recurring affordable housing with housing that is
incompatible with incomes in the neighborhood”
-So it’s the neighborhood they are being removed from? The new homes are too expensive?
-But wait a second the rental units at 115 Boylan are being replaced with office only?

This is an endless game with a subjective rule book.

I agree! So what? Rezoning has to go through City Council, whose members are elected. That makes this a political process which is subjective. …a process that this request just started.

I agree with you that it seems like there’s better places to build new office buildings than where these perfectly nice-looking houses stand today. Plus, I really see no reason why this request would be approved because of the request for overlay removal. Dealing with things like this is exactly why the City has so many oversight boards and bureaucratic red tape; it’s supposed to weed out and reject stupid applications like this, rather than just rubber-stamping every developer’s wet dreams.

Of course, I’m assuming you’re talking about this in good faith :stuck_out_tongue: I hope you’re not actually angry about a different trend, something other than this particular case…

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It’s always in good faith, none of this bothers me, it’s just the inconsistency that makes you question why. It really goes to show the influence a vocal group of neighbors can have towards affecting these projects. It’s unlikely anyone will object to this project, even if it accomplishes the exact result they were holding up another project from doing. (Removing naturally occurring affordable housing)

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Peace St. and Boylan Ave. intersection will be closed for about a month:

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/traffic/article250272880.html

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This story is a great example what is wrong with modern journalism. They reprinted the press release and never mention why the street is being closed. Other than alerting people who have not noticed the tons of signs telling people the street will be closed, this article is worse than worthless.

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And further, I walked by there last night and it’s not closed.

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They had 2 blocks of Glenwood closed last night for expanded outdoor dining. Was a pretty cool atmosphere. Would love to see them close the whole stretch from Hillsborough to Peace every weekend.

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The Downtown Raleigh Alliance has been doing that each Sat night this month. We did Big Easy on Fayetteville last weekend. Runs through June.

https://downtownraleigh.org/dra-programs/dine-out-downtown.

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Haven’t seen this small project mentioned anywhere else. This is the old Office Tavern and most recently Yacht Club Bar off of Johnson St. From what I’ve heard it’s still going to be a bar, but they’re adding a second floor and rooftop area. Also, I keep hearing there’s going to be some sort of slide incorporated for adult use? Anyone else have any info on this?

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Drinking + and adult slide. What could go wrong?

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People having fun & maybe a few boo boos

Just a joke. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: If I was younger and still in my bar hopping days, I would probably be all over it.

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The Johnson and Glenwood 12-story rezoning was approved yesterday. Would allow up to 293 apartments, 150K sf of office, and 28k of retail.

If this and the creamery project happen, Glenwood South will look a lot different.

https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2021/05/05/raleigh-council-clears-way-for-2-massive-projects.html

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At the very site of our next meetup. Maybe that can be our thing, we have meetups at sites that are being rezoned. :stuck_out_tongue:

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There’s a house plant store that’s working on opening up on Peace Street. Straight across from the Sherwin Williams.

Their Instagram is @urbanpothos

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Wait … Urban Pot Hos?

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We’re all ho’s for something. May as well be plants… :man_shrugging::seedling::herb:🪴
:laughing:

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