General Parking Discussion

Agreed. I don’t know who thought that jarring disconnect looked good, but then there is no accounting for taste.

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I believe that building was designed by Duda Paine in Durham. It’s got to the ugliest project they have ever done.

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They need to keep that doodoo pain in Durm or whatever, Lols…

Looks kinda like if you had a picture of The Dillon but the image got corrupted halfway down

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I think I might be dead by the time the City of Raleigh realizes it could probably fund most of our projects simply by actually issuing fines for finable offenses like that.

I’ve never in my life seen a car parked in a bike lane with a ticket on its windshield, here. In fact, there’s a church on Oberlin Rd that I fully believe guilted the city into pausing the bike lane along the length of its property and, while there are still “NO PARKING” signs along said stretch - church people park along the road there EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.

No fines, no tickets. Just unending and utterly abused leniency and privilege.

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This is interesting to me that there is no enforcement. I was on the church board for the past 3 years and rotated off in January this year. I asked this specific question about street parking in front of the church (not on Oberlin Road, but along Ridge Road). I was told that street parking was ONLY allowed on Sunday mornings. The rest of the week street parking was NOT allowed on Ridge Road. You CAN park on the side streets, but not the thoroughfare. Ridge Road is fairly busy at different times throughout the day, and several buses (and bikes) use this road as well.

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I’ll add that the church across from Moore Square is a top offender here. The signs behind the bike lane on Person say “No Parking Any Time.” I’m not sure how one could interpret that as “no parking any time except for Sunday” but every Sunday they clog the bike lane and don’t think twice about it. I’ve approached people about it directly who look at me like I’m from another planet.

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Because that’s literally what the city code says…

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Great, then they should change the sign. The sign doesn’t have that code printed on it, so no, I would still not expect a reasonable human to interpret it as ok to park on Sunday. Clearly the congregation has been given a different message, which I never doubted.

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In all honesty, there should be a bike lane and street parking spaces, just like the block immediately south, and there’s plenty of room. It’s only not because of the federal building east of Person. And it’s a dumb rule to not allow parking just because it’s a federal building, but I know that’s the way it is.

I agree, if Sundays are an exception, it should be put on the sign. It’s too much ambiguity. I’d wager many congregants aren’t aware of the Sunday exception, they just see everyone parking in the bike lane and assume the rule is not enforced at all.

We have a similar situation at my church (not a bike lane, it’s actually a stretch of our own parking lot that has “do not park / block drive” signs). We’ve been told that the signage doesn’t apply, but not under what specific conditions (only Sunday? only members?). Anyone rolling up on a Sunday morning is just going to see a line of cars parking next to the “do not park” signs and make whatever assumption they want to make about it.

Signage should just state the whole situation and leave nothing to interpretation, and the city should enforce exactly what’s on the sign. Simple.

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Here’s a crazy idea - how about simply NO PARKING IN BIKE LANES regardless of day of the week or who’s parking there (read: church goers). If there’s a “No Parking” sign, then… NO PARKING. I know, I know… pretty out there and unreasonable of an idea, I get it.

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Come on Jake, rules don’t apply to churches or people going church. :shaking_face:

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Bicyclists get the roads 98% of the time. God gets them for a few hours on Sunday. Seems fair.

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God doesn’t have a car.

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Which god? There’s like thousands mentioned throughout human history.

None of them reside and drive in Raleigh, as far as I’m aware. Let’s stick to reality when discussing city development/news, please and thanks.

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Lol. The biggest jokester on here doesn’t get a joke.

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:musical_notes: What if God was one of us? Rode a bike like some of us? :musical_notes:

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My apologies. I pray you’ll forgive me. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Cars get the roads 98% of the time, cyclists get it 1%, and god a few hours on Sunday.