I don’t go down to Fayetteville Street much but I was wondering if that location of b.good has closed permanently? I checked their website and it doesn’t list NC locations anymore. The one in North Hills never opened even for take-out, but their Northeastern locations are open for business. I wonder why the NC locations aren’t reopening.
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Where did you hear this? Great news if true!!
Gus’s (the owner) facebook page. Hopefully a pretty reliable source. It also seemed like they had a sign out front.
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New and Game Changing development that’s how we fix lol.
I really think the issue with Fay st. is lack of cohesive vibe with establishments, and general age of establishments. Many retail/bar/restaurants on Fay are just dated and appeal more to the Trolley Pub experience… There are a couple of higher quality places, but they are scattered and separated by places like Subway, The Big Easy, PNC bank lobby, courthouse, and empty spaces (former Oxford i.e.)
It just doesn’t compare to the cohesiveness of Glenwood S. which is really main street Raleigh, IMO.
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Yes, Fayetteville Street ground-floor space caters to a lot of different customers and a lot of space is dedicated to lobbies, mostly banks, that we don’t really “use” frequently. I could see Wilmington Street taking off more due to it having more of that side-by-side retail space compactness. Just need to develop a few more “holes” and the street could be tight with shops and restaurants.
Wilmington is a bit grittier so a streetscape overhaul could be welcomed at some point in the future.
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Agreed, Wilmington st. has more potential. I wish the trash moluk (w/e they were called) would have stayed.
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I think GS and FS serve different functions. Glenwood South is your entertainment district of sorts, not as much a main street as it’s almost all bars and restaurants along its axis (and not much office). Fayetteville Street has so many different lobbies (as Leo mentioned) and storefronts that there’s always going to be some turnover going on, which is fine. GS has it’s own from time to time with that Southern Charred spot being on its 8th or so iteration by now, same for the Xoco spot, etc. But the way the businesses interact with the streetscape is more in your face on GS, so it seems more ‘full’.
Fayetteville Street has so much more office around it that it will not ‘recover’ until we have an effective CV vaccine. You’ve probably noticed that a number of the buildings on FS are taking the ‘opportunity’ to do repair and maintenance work, which also not attractive in the short term, but will payoff in the long run. Wilmington/Hargett/Fayetteville/Salisbury are symbiotic and I believe they will continue to boost each other as more active uses achieve greater density is this larger core.
Long story short, I think FS will be fine. Personally I’d like to see the civilian hourly parking on it be converted to more permanent sidewalk space for businesses. I think that would give it a more welcoming/active vibe, especially after hours. Only major downside I’d see to that is it may not allow food trucks on both sides, but I think that’s not a big loss imo, if you have those permanent businesses more continuously activated.
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FS was struggling before CV
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I’ve seen the pattern unfold before, and Glenwood South now has the very strong possibility of emerging as downtown’s most comprehensive district in the coming years. SH brings another dimension to the neighborhood with daily retail in a grocer, 800 more housing units and a substantial amount of office space. With phase 3 still pending, the possibility of a phase 4, Zimmer across Capital, and the Creamery block, GS could become a juggernaut and the most comprehensive neighborhood downtown before the end of the decade.
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I approve of this. I’d like this to culminate over the next 18 months, please.
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I’m on it. Don’t want you to be disappointed.
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It just doesn’t compare to the cohesiveness of Glenwood S. which is really main street Raleigh, IMO.
So strange for me to hear this cause I literally never go to Glenwood South lol… there’s nothing there that appeals to me as someone who doesn’t go to bars or clubs. Other than The Cortez, I feel like it doesn’t really have anything noteworthy in terms of Raleigh’s food/coffee/retail/arts scene. (I did used to pass through frequently to pick up supplies from Askew Taylor’s though!)
Am I alone in this? /what am I missing?
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I don’t think this is just a DT Raleigh issue. The “Financial District” in San Francisco, and the area where most of the large office buildings are, was pretty dead after 5pm, at least when I lived there years ago.
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For me personally it’s:
Where can I go in Raleigh that gives me a variety of dining/drinking/entertainment options within a 2 block walk?
Within a stone’s throw from each other, I frequent:
La Santa
Plates
Sushi O
C Grace
Hibernian
North Street Beer Station
Also, Five Star is over there now. Pfffff
And during C19 I’ve seen live music at Rockford, Little City Brewing, and Tin Roof (not my cup of tea, but I know the musicians).
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Same. I may go somewhere like C. Grace a couple times a year. I went down there plenty in my mid-20s (Hibs, RiRa, Blue Martini, Rockford, Tobacco Rd, etc), but that’s not appealing to me now. My friends 30+ don’t really go down there on a regular basis, they’d rather go to wilmington/hargett, North Person, some places in Warehouse, but GS not so much as it seems more like the 20s crowd, crowded and loud. Nothing wrong with that, but it’s certainly not where everyone wants to be. I’ll go shake my fist at a cloud now.
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Yeah, need some grown up places. Glenwood South’s bro scene grates me…
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lol I’m in my 20s and it’s still never been my scene.
I guess as someone who doesn’t live in Raleigh, I tend to see it from a “destination” standpoint. What are the places I’d want to go for a date, or to take someone from out of town, or to spend a nice Saturday?
I could cluster an experience around the Warehouse District, beginning at Heirloom, stopping by Father and Sons, Port of Raleigh (RIP), CAM, Fiction Kitchen, and Videri. Or I might spend time in the Moore Square area instead, hitting up Transfer co. Food Hall, Brewery Bhavana (also kinda RIP) or an Ashley Christensen joint, refuel at Morning Times, and see a show at The Pour House, Kings, or the Lincoln. These, to me, are more representative of what Raleigh has to offer. Glenwood South almost seems generic by comparison, but maybe I haven’t given it a chance.
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Scene or not, the fact of the matter is that you’ve described several wonderful Raleigh experiences (although a bit on the destination/expensive side as you mentioned) that require more transportation.
You just don’t have to walk far at all on Glenwood to get a variety of different services/price points/“vibes”/etc.