Raleigh would have a stronger voice and be a much more powerful city if it engulfed the 300+ square miles around it like Charlotte did. Imagine if just Cary, Apex, Garner, and Morrisville were in the city of Raleigh? The city would have well over 800K people in 260 square miles. The city’s voice would be stronger and it would have the resources to be bolder and more robust in the pursuit of transit solutions. Then again, it would have to manage even more suburban voices within the city limits in that pursuit. But, if Charlotte could do that with that many suburban people in its limits, then so could Raleigh.
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The recent transit tax was voted on by all of Mecklenburg County, not just those in Charlotte.
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W are Vs in Polish and Ł sounds like W. Very interesting language, also one of the hardest languages to learn for an English speaker.
The way you pronounce your name can even change depending on the context.
For Anna:
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Anna – nominative (subject: “Anna is here”)
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Anny – genitive (possession/absence: “Anna’s book” / “there is no Anna”)
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Annie – dative (indirect object: “I gave it to Anna”)
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Annę – accusative (direct object: “I see Anna”)
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Anną – instrumental (with/by means of: “I’m talking with Anna”)
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Annie – locative (about/at: “I’m thinking about Anna”)
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Anno – vocative (direct address: “Hey, Anna!”)
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This could happen with approval from NCDOT to use their roadways. Plus the Transit Planning Advisory Committee (TPAC), CAMPO boards, and etc. would have to approve a project like this in order for Wake Transit funds to be utilized.
That would all take a couple of years and be realized after New Bern is completed.
The issue is Raleigh surrounds itself with incompetent yes men, who want everything to be car oriented, and all they do is listen to suburbanites who are prejudice and are anti growth or anti progressivist. Most Raleigh residents would like to address transit but until Raleigh can get over surrounding itself with surrounding themselves non progressive people who are yes mem and don’t listen to everybody else we will be behind. I point this out to my mom and other people with the mindset like her about how we should be taking points from Charlotte but in there heads they like deflect and say why can’t we be our own city and not like them.
There is incompetence in city government and too many comfortable folks, If I was in office I serve people who want transit and ignore everyone else let people like my mom and other abandon them let there neighborhoods have nothing while everyone else who wants it serve them if they ask for it. We have to be separatist these people are a loud minority they scream and cry to get there way, Charlotte what they did is serve people who want it and listened to people who didn’t want it by pleasing both sides. They didn’t let them get there way by letting a loud minority speak for the entire city, If that neighborhood don’t want it then another can have it until Raleigh knows how to segregate itself and community we’ll never progress. That why you think we act like a1950s small town.
Unfortunately in today’s politics there are now lines drawn. It literally evident in our council everything is divided.
No we just have to be neighborhood against neighborhood, if one neighborhood doesn’t want it we don’t serve them and let it have there way while another neighborhood that want it we give to them.
Raleigh listens to a very vocal minority who thinks they can speak for everyone. Unless we get on council members to see for the whole city we won’t survive the city is divided it reflect our council also it’s about to be 3 livable Raleigh folks and 5 progressive folks we are divided.
Yeah, but Charlotte voters dominate Mecklenburg County. Raleigh is only about 40% of Wake County.
That why we should annex Apex, Cary and Wake Forest but I doubt that’ll happen.
Yeah…I don’t think that’s how it works. But you get points for thinking outside the box.
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As long as we’re talking about political impossibilities, a scenario that would make more sense is to merge Cary, Morrisville, north Raleigh outside 440, and Wake Forest.
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I really hate riding GoRaleigh it really is run by lazy people today I was waiting for the 1 at it new stop on peace/halifax me and a rider saw the bus and it went the opposite direction I have a photo of it going the other direction, that rider and I were very confused. This was the second time me and a rider were confused by route 1/14 changes yesterday I told a man about this change he had no idea that happened and was confused. He figured it out he had some not so nice words to say.
This is what I mean by Raleigh is ran by incompetent yes people GoRaleigh couldn’t informed the media about these changes, not just put some piece of paper on a stop sign. You cannot be that lazy it’s why people don’t take us seriously.
Apparently staff knows that Google doesn’t update our dataset often enough, and that’s why they tell everyone to use the Transit App but like digging into our GTFS Data, our old schedule is still marked as valid and I wouldn’t expect Google to necessarily update it before March 31st. We’re also supposed to update it in the Google form about a week before it takes effect but I often feel like we don’t use any of the advanced features of GTFS, like detours or announcements, basically just vehicle location and timetable. We did use GTFS announcements for the March service changes, but not in a useful way and didn’t even name the new route.
Edit: it shows up now, of day 3/24
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No there literally was a piece of paper at the bus stop telling people about the changes why can’t you guys just go on the news. Or create an app. Makes me want to join the transit committee I have some ideas.
@Yimbyforlife If you do one thing good for me it would be to share all this in the survey. They don’t read this forum but they read this.
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i rode those busses for many years….i cant recall a breakdown at the MSS itself. usually midroute and as some other bus had to be sent out to fetch us. eh…happens anywhere i guess
I do think it’s worth looking at where everyone falls in ridership.
CATS - 15.68M
GoRaleigh - 7.99M
GoDurham - 6.74M
Chapel Hill Transit - 4.3M
NC State Wolfline - 4M to 5M
UNC Charlotte Niner Transit - 2.6M
ECU transit - 2.5M
GoTriangle - 1.5M
AppalCART - 1.5M
FAST - 1.3M
Winston Salem Transit Authority - 1.3M
High Point Transit - 528K
CK Rider - 525K
PART - 375K
GoCary - 300K
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When is this as of? I always thought that Chapel Hill Transit was ahead of GoRaleigh
All of them are 2025 data except NC State (that data is estimated based on previous data)
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I already sent this feedback via the Wake Transit Plan link sent the other day, but I figure I would share this here as well. I don’t think I’ve seen this discussed anywhere else before, but surely I can’t be the only one who has experienced this….
I don’t ride GoRaleigh as frequently as others, but over the last year and a half I do ride it sometimes (occasionally up to a couple of times per week). For a couple of the buses I’ve gotten on during that time, the drivers have ZERO clue what their route is. Like, we (the riders) have had to give them turn-by-turn directions just to stay on route to get to where we’re going.
The first few times that it happened to me, I was trying to ride the tragedy that is the WRX to go visit family. I can understand a little for that specific route, since while GoRaleigh operated it they only ran 5 trips a day at the most inconvenient times, and I only really ever saw a few other people onboard at most. One time the driver did know of an older alignment, but hadn’t been informed that at some point GoRaleigh realigned the route off of Atlantic and on to Capital (and from S Main St onto Capital & NC-98 in Wake Forest). I didn’t think much of it, but clearly the other people onboard did as they made a fair deal of it. To be fair, the realignment off of Atlantic wasn’t even shown in the last brochure GoRaleigh published for the route (dated July 2022), and GoTriangle has since restored this alignment when they took the route over, but still…
If this only happened on a disused express route that they don’t even operate anymore, I wouldn’t care. But I’ve had this happen to me twice while I’ve been riding route 11 as well, most recently TODAY. Both times I was trying to get from downtown to NC State’s campus, and the first time was during last year’s Dreamville Fest. I recall that the driver had asked us onboard if any of us was trying to get off on NC State, and on receiving a yes from all but one of us onboard (there were only a few to be fair), skipped all the stops on NCSU’s main campus and remained on Western until turning onto Avent Ferry and dropping us all off at the stop there. It especially sucked for me since it turned my 4 minute walk into a 20 minute walk, and I was already in a serious rush. But today I was riding, and the driver did not know the route at all!!! A few of us riders (myself included) had to give her turn-by-turn directions the entire way. I probably would’ve missed my stop in a similar style to last year had I not come up to the front of the bus and mentioned the deviation through NCSU, and I genuinely hope that someone else stepped up after I got off.
I’m a little more concerned about route 11 because NCSU’s Wolfline just announced today their changes for the Fall 2026 semester, and they’ve significantly restructured almost all of their routes with the stated goal of reducing service along corridors that GoRaleigh routes 11 & 12 already run on. You can see it clearly too when comparing their new route map to their current one. Almost all of the Wolfline trips I’ve taken during my time here so far will become impossible this fall without taking route 11, and if the driver doesn’t know where the stops are, how can myself and other students rely on it for trips that we could previously just step on a Wolfline bus for?
I realize this happens fairly rarely for the amount of times I take GoRaleigh, but the fact that it happens at all is absurd. I can understand new drivers not being completely familiar, but they shouldn’t be sent out driving routes that are new to them with zero guidance. I understand from my untrained eye that GoTriangle has a screen for their drivers that, among many other things, displays turn guidance for their route. Surely GoRaleigh can adopt something similar?
Has anyone else experienced anything similar, or am I just unlucky? I realize I just typed an essay, but I’m a bit concerned. There are of course other issues I have experienced with GoRaleigh as a whole, and I would love to see them overcome those issues, but one of the things I’m not trying to worry about when I step onboard a bus is if I have to help guide the driver to my stop.
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if i recall right even with CAT, an operator who knew thre route would ride with a newer driver…they would just sit up front.
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